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  • What does modern Israel have in common with 1950's Alabama?

    Lynch mobs to prevent miscegenation and race mixture!



    NAZARETH // A local authority in Israel has announced that it is establishing a special team of youth counsellors and psychologists whose job it will be to identify young Jewish women who are dating Arab men and “rescue” them.

    The move by the municipality of Petah Tikva, a city close to Tel Aviv, is the latest in a series of separate – and little discussed – initiatives from official bodies, rabbis, private organisations and groups of Israeli residents to try to prevent interracial dating and marriage.

    In a related development, the Israeli media reported this month that residents of Pisgat Zeev, a large Jewish settlement in the midst of Palestinian neighbourhoods in East Jerusalem, had formed a vigilante-style patrol to stop Arab men from mixing with local Jewish girls.

    Hostility to intimate relationships developing across Israel’s ethnic divide is shared by many Israeli Jews, who regard such behaviour as a threat to the state’s Jewishness. One of the few polls on the subject, in 2007, found that more than half of Israeli Jews believed intermarriage should be equated with “national treason”.

    Since the state’s founding in 1948, analysts have noted, a series of legal and administrative measures have been taken by Israel to limit the possibilities of close links developing between Jewish and Arab citizens, the latter comprising a fifth of the population.

    Largely segregated communities and separate education systems mean that there are few opportunities for young Arabs and Jews to become familiarised with each other. Even in the handful of “mixed cities”, Arab residents are usually confined to separate neighbourhoods.

    In addition, civil marriage is banned in Israel, meaning that in the small number of cases where Jews and Arabs want to wed, they can do so only by leaving the country for a ceremony abroad. The marriage is recognised on the couple’s return.

    Dr Yuval Yonay, a sociologist at Haifa University, said the number of interracial marriages was “too small to be studied”. “Separation between Jews and Arabs is so ingrained in Israeli society, it is surprising that anyone manages to escape these central controls.”

    The team in Petah Tikva, a Jewish city of 200,000 residents, was created in direct response to news that two Jewish girls, aged 17 and 19, were accompanying a group of young Arab men when they allegedly beat a Jewish man, Leonard Karp, to death last month on a Tel Aviv beach. The older girl was from Petah Tikva.

    The girls’ involvement with the Arab youths has revived general concern that a once-firm taboo against interracial dating is beginning to erode among some young people.

    In sentiments widely shared, Mr Hakak, a spokesman for Petah Tikva municipality, said “Russian girls”, young Jewish women whose parents arrived in Israel over the past two decades, since the former Soviet Union collapsed, were particularly vulnerable to the attention of Arab men.

    Dr Yonay said Russian women were less closed to the idea of relationships with Arab men because they “did not undergo the religious and Zionist education” to which more established Israeli Jews were subject.

    Mr Hakak said the municipality had created a hotline that parents and friends of the Jewish women could use to inform on them.

    “We can’t tell the girls what to do but we can send a psychologist to their home to offer them and their parents advice,” he said.

    Motti Zaft, the deputy mayor, told the Ynet website that the municipality was also cracking down on city homeowners who illegally subdivide apartments to rent them cheaply to single Arab men looking for work in the Tel Aviv area. He estimated that several hundred Arab men had moved into the city as a result.

    Petah Tikva’s hostility to Arab men mixing with local Jewish women is shared by other communities.

    In Pisgat Zeev, a settlement of 40,000 Jews, some 35 Jewish men are reported to belong to a patrol known as “Fire for Judaism” that tries to stop interracial dating.

    Unusually for a settlement, Pisgat Zeev has attracted a tiny but growing population of Arab families, both from East Jerusalem and from inside Israel. Because Pisgat Zeev sits within Jerusalem’s municipal borders, Arabs with Israeli residency rights can live there as long as Jewish settlers are willing to rent to them.

    One member, who identified himself as Moshe to the Jerusalem Post newspaper, said: “Our goal is to be in contact with these girls and try to explain to them the dangers of what they’re getting themselves into. In the last 10 years, 60 girls from Pisgat Zeev have gone into [Palestinian] villages [in the West Bank]. And most of them aren’t heard from after that.”

    He denied that violence or threats were used against Arab men.
    Last year, the municipality of Kiryat Gat, a town of 50,000 Jews in southern Israel, launched a programme in schools to warn Jewish girls of the dangers of dating local Bedouin men. The girls were shown a video titled Sleeping with the Enemy, which describes mixed couples as an “unnatural phenomenon”.

    Haim Shalom, head of the municipality’s welfare department, is filmed saying: “The girls, in their innocence, go with the exploitative Arab.”

    In 2004, posters sprang up all over the northern town of Safed warning Jewish women that dating Arab men would lead to “beatings, hard drugs, prostitution and crime”.
    Safed’s chief rabbi, Shmuel Eliyahu, told a local newspaper that the “seducing” of Jewish girls was “another form of war” by Arab men.

    Both Kiryat Gat and Safed’s campaigns were supported by a religious organisation called Yad L’achim, which runs an anti-assimilation team publicly dedicated to “saving” Jewish women.

    According to its website, the organisation receives more than 100 calls a month about Jewish women living with Arab men, both in Israel and the West Bank. It launches “military-like rescues [of the women] from hostile Arab villages” in co-ordination with the police and army.

    “The Jewish soul is a precious, all-too-rare resource, and we are not prepared to give up on even a single one,” says the website.


    Are you serious? The US actually supports this country?
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    It could be worse. They could support a real human rights abusing country like Saudi Arabia. Oh, wait...
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    • #3
      Speer's obviously never been to Israel. Applying this label to the country is beyond laughable.
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      • #4
        Did you read the article, HC? Or at least the bolded portions?

        There is no difference from the South.
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        • #5
          I often hear the argument that the Muslims living in Israel are freer and better off than the Muslims living in most Muslim-dominated countries. That's another way in which Israel is probably like 1950's Alabama...

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          • #6
            To be clear, that point is directed at HC.

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            • #7
              Are you serious? No one finds anything wrong with this?
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              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • #8
                I'd have to say the entire region is basically one giant **** hole and even though Israel is the best nation in the region by far it is clearly not up to western standards. At least they're better then their barbarian neighbors though so I have to grade them as a C with their neighbors all getting F's.

                I would like to see Israel improve more but reasonably I don't see such cultural change actually occurring as long as the Arab world continues to be virtual medieval monsters. Where is your thread about **** stains in Saudi Arabia, Albert? Where do you decry the fact that simply publicly declaring yourself to not be a Muslim in Saudi Arabia is by law an automatic public execution? Until you admit those regimes are evil and should be exterminated off the earth like the Nazis (as well as anyone who supports them) I really don't give a **** about your opinion.
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                • #9
                  Best the we could have ever done these past 60 years was to stay out of that **** and remained non-aligned to any ME power.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                    their neighbors all getting F's.


                    Jordan? Turkey? Lebanon? Are you sure, Oerdin?
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                    • #11
                      None of those countries are as free as Israel.
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                      • #12
                        Jordan, yes, Lebanon, oh hell yes, Turkey, I do not place as a part of the Mideast and instead as part of Europe. Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia, all F's.
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                        • #13
                          Turkey is not a model nation nor is it fit to join the EU. The government has ethnically cleansed the nation of Greeks and Armenians, they deny doing so, and actively oppress their Kurdish population. It might have a democratic face but they are about as tolerant to their minorities as the Israelis are.

                          The few remaining Eastern Orthodox Christians in Turkey face profound discrimination. Churches and graves are desecrated and there have been multiple assassination attempts against the Patriarch Bartholomew. Something tells me that by the end of this century the last of Anatolia Orthodox heritage will be wiped out.

                          To say that it is culturally part of Europe is incredibly naive.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Albert Speer View Post
                            Are you serious? No one finds anything wrong with this?
                            I do.

                            Jews are crazy when it comes to intermarriage. Even fairly liberal American Jews see intermarriage as a horrible crime.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Riesstiu IV View Post
                              Turkey is not a model nation nor is it fit to join the EU. The government has ethnically cleansed the nation of Greeks and Armenians, they deny doing so, and actively oppress their Kurdish population. It might have a democratic face but they are about as tolerant to their minorities as the Israelis are.

                              The few remaining Eastern Orthodox Christians in Turkey face profound discrimination. Churches and graves are desecrated and there have been multiple assassination attempts against the Patriarch Bartholomew. Something tells me that by the end of this century the last of Anatolia Orthodox heritage will be wiped out.

                              To say that it is culturally part of Europe is incredibly naive.
                              Probably right.
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