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  • What's the difference between an American being beheaded by Islamic extremists and an American being shot 4 times in the head at close range by an Israeli soldier?

    People only care in the first instance.
    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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    • whats the similarities for riaa and the idf? they are both right but do there best to be wrong.

      harhar

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      • medals are coming
        The latest breaking UK, US, world, business and sport news from The Times and The Sunday Times. Go beyond today's headlines with in-depth analysis and comment.


        Six of the nine passengers killed in an Israeli raid on an aid convoy bound for Gaza were shot by a single Israeli commando,
        who is being considered for a medal of valour for saving his injured comrades as passengers attacked them with clubs, knives and even guns they had taken from downed Navy Seals.
        Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
        GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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        • More brilliant PR by Israel
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • even guns they had taken from downed Navy Seals.
            Que?
            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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            • From the timeonline article... this is the only other reference to Navy Seals in the article:

              Some Israeli officials have accused the Turks who attacked them of links to terrorist groups, although it was unclear why, in that case, the soldiers of Flotilla 13, the elite Navy Seals unit involved in the operation, were briefed only to expect peaceful resistance.
              What? I'm not understandng this sentence. Navy Seals were involved in the boarding?

              Earlier, in the article there is a Staff Sergeant (NOT a Navy Seal therefore because that's not a Navy rank although he could be part of some MARSCOC detachment? I'm not sure how that works; more likely, he's IDF) saying that his officers were wounded and their weapons taken away from them... Those were the only guns I could figure out that the people on the ship had. Were those officers not IDF but Navy Seals?
              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • I'm assuming they're Israeli Navy Seals. It's probably just an inaccurate term they use to describe the IDF Navy's elite forces.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
                  medals are coming
                  The latest breaking UK, US, world, business and sport news from The Times and The Sunday Times. Go beyond today's headlines with in-depth analysis and comment.


                  Six of the nine passengers killed in an Israeli raid on an aid convoy bound for Gaza were shot by a single Israeli commando,
                  who is being considered for a medal of valour for saving his injured comrades as passengers attacked them with clubs, knives and even guns they had taken from downed Navy Seals.
                  A well, the only real human life is a Jewish life right ? All the rest are... lets say untermenschen ?
                  "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                  • Well I googled Flotilla 13 and yeah, it's apparently Israeli Naval Special Forces.

                    That's very disingenous of the Times. Navy SEALS are a specific force within the US Navy. Flotilla 13 is something else (Shayetet 13 to be exact)
                    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                    • So it seems most of the killing was done by a single "berzerk"

                      I have no reason to criticise him, it seems he did the only reasonable thing, given the situation his superiors had put him into, opening fire to save his captured buddies from a reckless lynch mob.

                      But the IDF had no reason and no right to be there in the first place. This was far outside Israels area of jurisdiction.

                      Another but is that some activists obviously asked to become martyrs even before they knew it was going to get rough. Others might have joined in the fight with improvised clubs and kitchen knifes to save their ship from the obviosly unwelcome and unlawful intruders.

                      However, what upsets me most right now is the claim I heard today, that there were about 60 journalists on board the ships. Naturally, they where looking for an expected scoop, no matter their personal political views. And all of them got their documentation of the incident confiscated and destroyed by Israel.

                      So basically, a country that claims to be a western-style democracy that promotes a free press, kidnapped a large number of independent journalists, far outside the country's own borders, and hindered the journalists in their profession.
                      So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                      Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                      • Why is anybody surprised by this? Israel is a ****ty excuse for a liberal democracy, and has very little respect for the limits of their own sovereignty.
                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • The activists responded repeatedly with shouts -- "Go back to Auschwitz!" -- and kept the ship at its maximum speed of 10 knots.




                          I had nightmares about Auschwitz after I visited the holocaust museum in Israel. The idea that anyone thinks jews should go back there...
                          If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                          • I care a lot less about the sensibilities of some overprivileged little toff than I do about 9 people dead for no good reason I can ascertain.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                              I care a lot less about the sensibilities of some overprivileged little toff than I do about 9 people dead for no good reason I can ascertain.
                              Just imagine the violence that would've been certain had those wooden clubs and cement mix made it ashore.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • Hey HC:

                                Why don't you come down to my neck of the woods projects around 2 am and see what nightmares you have?

                                Better yet, why not go to the Gaza Strip and see how the Palestinians are doing?
                                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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