Video on how to get a woman?

[Heraclitus]

Heraclitus once recommended The Pick-up Artist.

A complete newbie can learn a thing or two by watching what the PUA instructors did in that show (the Tricks of the trade episode is ok). The contestants where mostly clueless.


There are however much better resources out there.

[Heraclitus]

Joke? Turn down the jargon meter a couple of notches you kooky wannabe Austrian.

I don't want to be Austrian. I will however admit to being kooky.

As to the jargon, sorry about it I spent the better part of a year learning game and have since let it atrophy. I acutally currently desperatly need to brush up since I'm in the market for a new GF after a long pause (I've gone beta and loving on my current one, I've got about 3 months before I can't be reasonably certain she won't cheat). When I started digging up content from my memory I started chanelling the nerdspeak I was exposed to when first searching for solutions.

[Kitschum]

You're Slovenian, i.e. wannabe Austrian.

[aneeshm]

Here's a quote from one of the articles posted by Aneeshm:

She even slips in some boilerplate about “offensive racist stereotypes” and “the painful legacy of slavery.” Readers of this journal are probably aware that such “stereotypes” have a real biological basis: Africans are in fact less monogamous than Europeans.

It seems you missed the bit where I asked readers to ignore everything they find offensive and consider the meat of the argument.

[Heraclitus]

That is, even if he finds a committed, monogamous, and faithful partner, the dynamics of the relationship cannot be the same, given that the context in which it exists has changed so much.

This is insigthfull. If one searches for a relationship that JM deisres one would need to look at how the few such relationships that currently work came to be and what sustains them.

Off the top of my head perhaps the lower upper class power couple could fit the bill? The relationship is (in my estimation) sustained by the need for massive spending to keep the lifestyle intact and both incomes are fully needed to keep this going. The need to spend and consume together with ubiqutus prenups and few or no children seem to be one of the factors slowing the spread of the news of marriage's death to the upper classes.

[MikeH]

Just 'cause some of you lot can't get serious loving relationships with women, doesn't mean they don't exist.

I'm willing to bet it's mainly down to your failings than the failings of all women.

[Heraclitus]

Just 'cause some of you lot can't get serious loving relationships with women, doesn't mean they don't exist.

I'm willing to bet it's mainly down to your failings than the failings of all women.

I had and technically still have one of those. I used game, the woman in question is smart and didn't look good in high school so she wasn't that well socialised by female standards. She was also a very girly girl whith a few romantic notions and a very authoritative father. She also liked Tolkien.


She however freely admited that she sort of wanted to be a "slut" (wanted to have a one night stand) in the year break between her ex and me. I took that as a sign that she was indeed slut in that year. However she had a stable relationship with her ex for 5 years (he was also her first) so she wasn't damaged beyond all repair concerning bonding.

[MikeH]

How romantic.

[David Floyd]

Have you wondered why, if DF behaves in such "crappy" ways to women, as I and he suggest, why he seems to be unable to have a meaningful relationship with one?

You and aneeshm are both right. My behavior is NOT conducive to a long term relationship, and I understand that, nor do I want such relationship.

To expand on that, though, that result has nothing to do with the initial "approach", so to speak. To briefly rehash the woman from the Plan B thread, the initial approach was pretty simple. I was at a bar with a bunch of friends, and noticed a guy I know walk in and sit down at the bar. He wasn't really a friend so I didn't immediately go over. Before too long, a woman came in and sat by herself a couple chairs away from him. At that point after about 10 minutes, I walked up to the guy I knew, BS'd for a few minutes, then told him he was nuts for talking to me instead of her, and that I expected better from him. She heard me say this, which was the plan, so when I turned around to walk back to my seat, I "left her wanting more", so to speak.

When I came back to the bar a bit later to order a shot, the rest was child's play. I didn't even have to introduce myself.

The point is, there was nothing wrong with that approach. Had I wanted this to be a dating relationship or whatnot, rather than a hookup, there was nothing stopping me from going that route. As it is, I'm perfectly happy being, in her words from the morning after, "drinking buddies who ****".

[Heraclitus]

How romantic.

I want to have kids with her.

We wrote actual love letters to each other during my trip abroad since they seemed more sincere and meaningfull than the rushed telephone conversation.


I however clearly see a breakdown sometime in the next 3 months, I've grown too suplicating, too beta. I want to make her feel good and have fallen into old patterns. She knows me thourughly so no new revalations will increase my percieved value and the short time I have left is not enough to build new value. I also haven't gamed in a while and have lost touch with my female friends. Preselection is out the window. Also she's figured out that she is now (unlike in her teens) desirable since she now see is better at it after I told her quite a bit about game, my boosting of her self-esteem hasn't helped either.


It hurts. I want to cry over it but its practically done all I can do is make the last few months toghether something she can pine over later and be the first to break up once she tells me the old "we need to talk about someting" line or after she suddenly starts texting some "old friend".

[Fake Boris]

It seems you missed the bit where I asked readers to ignore everything they find offensive and consider the meat of the argument.

Bull****.

The guy does not provide any source for his claims. When you hear stuff like that, you get a feeling why.

[David Floyd]

So what have you learned from this, Hera?

[MikeH]

Hera you're just moving into the second phase of the relationship, after all the initial hormone driven frenzy you get to work out how you spend your lives together. Wanting to make someone feel good is a good thing not a weakness.

The only thing that'll kill it now is your lack of self-esteem. If you think you're not good enough for her that's what will cause the problem.

[Dinner]

How to get women? Just wave $100 bills around and tell them you want to ****. If that fails you can fall back on pretending to care about what they think pretending to be a snap dresser.

[Fake Boris]

Mike, it's not that they do not want a loving relationship.

It's that contraception and social perception of the female role has changed the game. The old clichés do not apply anymore. The situation needs to be discussed in a brute manner.