Australia: Nanny State again

[KrazyHorse]

I shouldn't really be surprised by that.

[Drake Tungsten]

Drake has cronies?

I embarrassed Drake (and his cronies) badly.

I didn't even know I had any cronies.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5797779#post5797779

[Asher]

[Ecofarm]

Is teacher/student roleplaying illegal also?

Since when is sex between teacher and student illegal?

[Asher]

Since when is sex between teacher and student illegal?

When the student is underage.
When the teacher is in a position of power.

In most cases, the student is young and the teacher is older.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent

Position of authority/trust – in some parts of the world, (such as England and Wales[12]), in cases where a person is in a position of trust over a child or young person the age of consent is set higher. Examples include a teacher and student.

[Ecofarm]

If the student is underage? Then we are talking about child sexual abuse, not sex with a student. Sex between teachers and students (of age) is legal. If your roleplay movie involves someone depicted as a child, then it is an image of child sexual abuse. It doesn't matter if they are cowboy and indian or teacher and student.



ps. I see we still have no evidence that games are withheld from Australia because they think they will get rejected.

[Asher]

If the student is underage? Then we are talking about child sexual abuse, not sex with a student.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

A 20-something girl roleplaying a schoolgirl while her 20-something boyfriend roleplays her teacher is child sexual abuse?

ps. I see we still have no evidence that games are withheld from Australia because they think they will get rejected.

I demand you prove that you never put the moves on me hoping to get into my pants.

[Ecofarm]

Are you ****ing kidding me?

A 20-something girl roleplaying a schoolgirl while her 20-something boyfriend roleplays her teacher is child sexual abuse?

If she is intended to (and does) look and act like a minor, it is an image of child sexual abuse.

I demand you prove that you never put the moves on me hoping to get into my pants.

What?

I'm asking him to prove a positive. A claim he made. You cannot just make claims that affect statistical inference (if I could think of a better word for it, I would) without evidence that your claim exists in reality. It's like me saying "but the aliens have intercepted some games, not allowing Australia to review them". And I'm supposed to be like "ok then, we'll just add 100 per year to make up for that"?

Prove that some games, in fact, omit Australia for evaluation/release.

[Asher]

If she is intended to (and does) look and act like a minor, it is an image of child sexual abuse.

It's not an image, it's two people acting. What is the problem here?

I asked if two people roleplaying student/teacher sex (which would imply the girl pretending to be underage) should be illegal. If you were consistent in your opinions, you would answer yes. Clearly it's an absurd position.

What?

I don't expect you to understand the analogy.

[Asher]

Look: Child pornography is illegal because it exploits a child. Not because the images are icky to most people.

You don't seem to understand this distinction.

[Hauldren Collider]

It should be the exploitation that is illegal though, not the porn itself.

[Ecofarm]

I asked if two people roleplaying student/teacher sex (which would imply the girl pretending to be underage) should be illegal. If you were consistent in your opinions, you would answer yes. Clearly it's an absurd position.

If the girl is portrayed as underage, of course it should be illegal. I don't know how you got anything else from my post.

Main Entry: 1im·age
Pronunciation: \ˈi-mij\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, short for imagene, from Latin imagin-, imago; perhaps akin to Latin imitari to imitate
Date: 13th century
1 : a reproduction or imitation of the form of a person or thing; especially : an imitation in solid form : statue

http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/image

Asher must be drunk. He appears to be unable to read.

[Hauldren Collider]

jesus ****ing christ pedotard, we have freedom of speech and I'd like to keep it that way

government regulating speech

Yes there is some speech that is bad but the government is really ****ing bad at figuring out what it is.

[giblets]

It should be the exploitation that is illegal though, not the porn itself.

I imagine allowing the sale of such porn would contribute to the demand for said exploitation.

[Asher]

It should be the exploitation that is illegal though, not the porn itself.

The porn is an artifact of the exploitation.