Treaty of Tripoli - Is the US A Christian Nation? Hmm...

[Berzerker]

Given that "America is a Christian nation" is basically the opposite of separation of church and state, I'd say it interferes with convincing people that the government should treat gay people equally and that they shouldn't support a ban on abortion for religious reasons. When right wing politicians claim the founding fathers wanted America to be a "Chistian nation" they spread lies and make people more ignorant.

qft

edit: ignorant = more ignorant

I think

[Zevico]

What does "America is a Christian nation" even mean? It's like saying "let's touch base", except in American polito-speak rather than business speak.

[Berzerker]

it means every Christian gets to use the electoral process to try and impose their particular interpretation of "what Jesus wants" on everyone else

[Az]

Separation of Church and State doesn't mean that the two can't mix.

You must have failed chemistry in high-school.

[Berzerker]

freedom from religion = freedom of religion

[RGBVideo]

Yeah agree with what you're saying, but what a worthless piece of document you have as evidence from a historical perspective.

Of course US wanted to appear as a non-Christian nation when dealing with Muslim authorities which had very bad relations with Christian nations of Europe over religion. What did North African pirates know about the United States in the 18th Century? Everything what the US emissaries told them about themselves and wrote in their diplomatic treaties.

[David Floyd]

You're not making an "Original Intent" argument, now are you?

[N35t0r]

Yeah agree with what you're saying, but what a worthless piece of document you have as evidence from a historical perspective.

Of course US wanted to appear as a non-Christian nation when dealing with Muslim authorities which had very bad relations with Christian nations of Europe over religion. What did North African pirates know about the United States in the 18th Century? Everything what the US emissaries told them about themselves and wrote in their diplomatic treaties.

So the USA just straight out lies on international treaties? Good to know then..

[axi]

What about "In God we trust" then?

[Solomwi]

An empty platitude named national motto in 1956, when America's biggest preoccupation was making sure nobody mistook us for godless commies. What about it?

[Whoha]

So the USA just straight out lies on international treaties? Good to know then..

We held up our end of the treaty on not being Christian until they attacked us. Then we had to Jesus the hell out of them.

[N35t0r]

Funny that you then invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. Check where Tripoli is.

[MrFun]

He was referring to the Muslim world in general.

[N35t0r]

Oh, so it's OK to break a treaty if another entity of the same faith attacks you?

[Whoha]

Funny that you then invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. Check where Tripoli is.

Jefferson invaded Afghanistan and Iraq? Wow thats awesome, why wasn't I taught that in school?