US continues to export freedom: Pressures Canada in piracy (We're #1!)

[Asher]

The United States Trade Representative office just released a new report on global piracy. Lots of finger-pointing to Canada as one of the worst 'offenders'. How dare Canada not have anti-circumvention for DRM laws, how dare Canada not seize laptops if the border guard may think your movie is pirated sans court order.

http://www.ustr.gov/webfm_send/1906

Canada will remain on the Priority Watch List in 2010. The United States looks forward to the government of Canada’s implementation of its previous commitments, recently reaffirmed in 2010, to improve IPR protection, and is encouraged by the high level of cooperation between the Canadian and United States governments on IPR matters. However, Canada has not completed the legislative reforms in the copyright area that are necessary to deliver on its commitments. The United States urges Canada to enact legislation in the near term to update its copyright laws and address the challenge of Internet piracy. Canada should fully implement the WIPO Internet Treaties, which Canada signed in 1997. Canada’s weak enforcement of intellectual property rights is also of concern, and the United States continues to encourage Canada to improve its IPR enforcement system to provide for deterrent sentences and stronger enforcement powers. In particular, border enforcement continues to be weak. The United States encourages Canada to provide its border officials with the authority to seize suspected infringing materials without the need for a court order. The United States will continue to follow Canada’s progress toward implementing an adequate and effective IPR protection and enforcement regime, including its progress on actions to address Internet piracy and improve border enforcement.

Get ****ed, gentlemen.

[OzzyKP]

It pains me to say this, but.... Canada

[Asher]

Canada has pretty much perfected the art of signing international agreements without any intention of actually following through on them. We're too polite to just say 'no'.

[BeBMan]

So Canada is worse than Somalia now?

[Thoth]

It's all Goldman Sachs fault.

Somali Pirates Say They Are Subsidiary of Goldman Sachs

Posted by tellnolies on May 3, 2010

from The Huffington Post

by Andy Borowitz

NORFOLK, VIRGINIA – Eleven indicted Somali pirates dropped a bombshell in a U.S. court today, revealing that their entire piracy operation is a subsidiary of banking giant Goldman Sachs.

There was an audible gasp in court when the leader of the pirates announced, “We are doing God’s work. We work for Lloyd Blankfein.”

The pirate, who said he earned a bonus of $48 million in dubloons last year, elaborated on the nature of the Somalis’ work for Goldman, explaining that the pirates forcibly attacked ships that Goldman had already shorted.

“We were functioning as investment bankers, only every day was casual Friday,” the pirate said.

The pirate acknowledged that they merged their operations with Goldman in late 2008 to take advantage of the more relaxed regulations governing bankers as opposed to pirates, “plus to get our share of the bailout money.”

In the aftermath of the shocking revelations, government prosecutors were scrambling to see if they still had a case against the Somali pirates, who would now be treated as bankers in the eyes of the law.

“There are lots of laws that could bring these guys down if they were, in fact, pirates,” one government source said. “But if they’re bankers, our hands are tied.”

http://kasamaproject.org/2010/05/03/somali-pirates-say-they-are-subsidiary-of-goldman-sachs/

[Ecofarm]

how dare Canada not seize laptops if the border guard may think your movie is pirated sans court order.

How many laptops per year get seized at the US-Canada border, because of regular movie files?

I'm calling strawman?

[giblets]

How many laptops per year get seized at the US-Canada border?

I'm calling strawman?

Canada hasn't given border guards the right to confiscate them yet, silly.

[ColdWizard]

Canada has border guards?

[Ecofarm]

Canada hasn't given border guards the right to confiscate them yet, silly.

Presumably, the US does?

We're asking them to do something we don't?


Assuming the US is pressuring Canada to impliment laws that we already have (is that not a reasonable assumption?)... show me the evidence of laptop confiscation based on regular movie files per year.

If the US is asking Canada to do something that the US doesn't, then the whole thing is stupid.

[giblets]

Presumably, the US does?

We're asking them to do something we don't?


Asuming the US is pressuring Canada to impliment laws that we already have (is that not a reasonable assumption?)... show me the evidence of laptop confiscation based on regular movie files per year.

I doubt anyone could find that evidence, so this issue really can't be debated based on evidence.

[Ecofarm]

Well, if no laptops are being seized from people with a few regular movies for personal use, then the law is obviously for something else and the OP claim is a strawman.

Like... I dunno... HUGE CACHES of this crap?


First prove that the US is confiscating laptops from individuals based on a few regular movies on file for personal use... THEN claim that is the objective of the law.

One cannot make outrageous claims about what the law will do when there is no evidence to support their claim.


Show me that regular people with a few movies are getting fkd, or I'm calling strawman.

[giblets]

They don't have to give a reason for seizing someone's laptop. No reason is given so you can't prove that the seizures are or aren't related to suspicions of piracy. And laptop seizures do happen.

[Ecofarm]

How many laptops per month or year?

And the reasons for seizure should be on record.



Look, the theoretical purpose presented in the OP must have actually occured, to some meaningful extent (not 1 or 2 people per year). Or it's a strawman.

[giblets]

If you think evidence should be brought into this argument, go find some.

As long as you don't provide evidence that laptops aren't getting confiscated, it's a valid concern.

[Ecofarm]

Hahahaha

gribbler = halflotus


If you can't prove that the US government didn't engineer 911 (or any other negative), then it's a valid concern!

hahahaha

If people gotta prove negatives, then you got alot of valid concerns out there, kid.



How do we know spiderman is not gonna kill us all?! Huh?? Can you prove it?11?

Personally, I think it is alot more reasonable (and productive to discussion) to expect someone to prove that spiderman is killing people in the first place.