[serious] Charity thread

[KrazyHorse]

Awesome insight. "Local food" is not necessarily consuming less energy, or healthier or tastier. I'm shocked. Also, the very problem is that some of these "externalities" are not priced.

Apparently it is an incredible insight, you twit. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many people claiming moral superiority due to eating local.

[Drake Tungsten]

Otherwise there wouldn't be so many people claiming moral superiority due to eating local.

Or wringing their hands about studies showing that the environmental benefits of local food are meager, at best.

[Ecofarm]

Now, wasn't that constructive?

Drake = KH

= Ben and Halflotus?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

It's a great argument, Ecofarm. Hindered only by the fact that we've known these people for about a decade longer than you and are well aware they're different people.

[Drake Tungsten]

KH = Drake

Everyone else already knew that I was KH's DL, but I guess people with unimpressive IQs are just now catching on...

[Ecofarm]

It's a great argument, Ecofarm.

At least you recognize its merits.


Anyway...

Otherwise there wouldn't be so many people claiming moral superiority due to eating local.

Or wringing their hands about studies showing that the environmental benefits of local food are meager, at best.

The environmental benefits of any factor, especially at an individual contextless level, are meager.

[KrazyHorse]

WTF is that supposed to mean?

[Ecofarm]

Oh sure, NOW who's stupid?

[KrazyHorse]

still you, moron

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

It's a great argument, Ecofarm. Hindered only by the fact that we've known these people for about a decade longer than you and are well aware they're different people.

Gotta love the noobs.

[Traianvs]

BTW, "fair trade" products and the fetish for locally produced food are both retarded.

Have you actually read the article about locally produced food?

It's much in line with my views. A strong carnivore diet is one of the most detrimental factors in tipping the ecological equilibrium out of balance.

[Drake Tungsten]

Eating less meat is a completely different thing than eating locally, you idiot.

[Traianvs]

Eating less meat is a completely different thing than eating locally, you idiot.

I'll just quote Cockney:

the article drake linked to raises some very good points, in particular eating seasonal foods and being aware of how the food you buy is produced. however, anyone who is even remotely serious about buying local will have given some thought to most of the issues it talks about. to use that article as a premise for describing a preference for local food as retarded is, well, retarded.

On top of that I was referring to your own article
The entire point the author is trying to make is that other production factors besides distance have to be taken into account to have a real view on its environmental impact. Distance is not always the decisive factor, if production is mitigating those effects relative to the alternatives on the market. Everyone knows that, and that's not what the argument of 'local' food is about.

Take Veta de la Palma for instance (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...902751,00.html, alternatively, check the ted talk on http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/da...th_a_fish.html). I'd prefer that one over any other regular unsustainable fish farm.

[Traianvs]

Drake's provided good evidence that "local" food is not necessarily more environmentally friendly.

Care to point out where exactly he provided that good evidence? He referred to two sources, which did not really support his arguments tbh...

[KrazyHorse]

So we're agreed that the eating local movement is idiotic?