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  • Youth Rights: Yemen and Child Brides

    For Ozzy.

    Youth are on the move. As technology has developed and the world has become a smaller place, young people are travelling more than ever in search of work, education, and health services.


    YEMEN: Deep divisions over child brides

    SANAA, 28 March 2010 (IRIN) - Hundreds of women clad in black `niqabs’ demonstrated in front of parliament in the Yemeni capital Sanaa on 23 March. Some were waving banners with the words: “Yes to the Sharia [Islamic legal] rights of Muslim women”, while others raised the Koran above their heads.

    “It is against Islam to set a minimum age for marriage,” said Zeinab al-Sunaidar, 27, a secretary from Iman University. “A girl can get married when she’s an adult - for some girls that is when they are 15 and for others when they are nine.”

    The debate on early marriages has polarized Yemeni society. Some cite religious texts as a justification not to set a minimum age. Others say Islam does not advocate child marriages and that the negatives of children getting married far outweigh the positives.

    What is the current legal age of marriage?

    Prior to the unification of Yemen in 1990, the law set the minimum age of marriage at 16 in South Yemen and 15 in the north. After unification, the law was set at 15. In 1999, the civil status law was amended and the minimum age was abolished.

    However, according to Shada Mohammed Nasser, an attorney at the Supreme Court who has worked on several child bride cases, the law stipulates that a girl should not sleep with her husband until she is mature. “But the law is not enforced,” said Nasser, citing the case of 12-year-old Sally al-Sabahi, who was married at the age of 10 and was divorced on 27 March. [Read her original story and latest update.]


    How many marry under age in Yemen?

    According to the Washington DC-based International Center for Research on Women (ICRW), 48 percent of girls are married when they are under 18. This, according to The Convention on the Rights of the Child which Yemen has signed and ratified, is “under age”.

    In some governorates just over half of all girls marry under the age of 15, according to an unpublished 2007 study on early marriage by Sanaa University’s Gender Development Research and Study Centre.

    What does the proposed law on minimum age advocate?

    An amendment to the civil status law would impose a hefty fine and up to a year’s imprisonment for parents who marry off their daughters before the age of 17, or sons before 18.

    The bill was brought before parliament in February 2009, where a majority voted for it. However, it was opposed by the Sharia Committee, so it was passed back to the parliament’s constitutional committee for review.

    On 21 March, several religious clerics issued a fatwa (decree) against a minimum age. However, parliament is set to vote on the bill again, but no specific date has been set.

    Who is against the minimum age and why?

    Much of the opposition has been voiced by conservative elements within the opposition party, Islah, and within the Sharia Committee, along with other religious institutions.

    Those who oppose the bill cite the example of the marriage between the Prophet Mohammed and his second wife Aisha, who was said to be around nine at the time. “We view a child as mature when it reaches puberty, not when it’s 18,” said Sheikh Mohammed al-Hazmi, who is a member of the Yemeni parliament.

    They also stress that sex outside marriage is adultery, according to Sharia. “We understand that young people are sexually active, but unlike in the West, they can marry here and not partake in immoral behaviour,” said al-Hazmi.

    Who is for the minimum age and why?

    Proponents of a minimum age say children are neither mentally nor physically ready to marry, let alone have children. "The greatest problem facing Yemeni women today is child marriages," said Wafa Ahmad Ali from the Yemeni Women’s Union. "These early marriages rob the girl of the right to a normal childhood and education.”

    They also say children’s bodies are not mature enough to carry children. “I see a lot of complications because of early marriages,” said Sanaa-based gynaecologist Arwa Elrabee. “These marriages are only about suffering.”

    Other critics say the younger a mother is when she starts to have children the more she is likely to have. Yemen’s population is growing at a rate of 3.2 percent a year, one of the fastest rates in the world.

    Even if the law is passed, will it be implemented?

    The lack of a reliable birth registration system in Yemen might hamper the implementation of the law; some parents might lie about their child’s age, say experts. The UN Children’s Fund (UNICEF) says an effective birth registration system is fundamental to the realization of a number of rights and practical needs.

    Activists are hopeful that changing perceptions about long-held traditions could bring about real change. “If the passing of the law is followed up with awareness campaigns and education, it has a chance of being implemented,” said lawyer Nasser.
    Where do you stand on this, Ozzy?
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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  • #2
    There is no reason not to allow marriage at 15 or 16. It does seem though that many nations that really push young marriage coerce kids to marry each other, or force young girls to marry much older men.

    Obviously forcing anyone to marry anyone is wrong regardless of their age.

    What's the issue?
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    • #3
      I think you may have misread the article. The law is already 15 for marriage. Some want there to be no minimum at all.

      Take force out of it.

      An 8 year old wants to marry someone. Legal or no?
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      • #4
        It is disturbing to think how pedophilia laws would change if equal rights for youths was taken to its full logical conclusion.
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        • #5
          This is the kind of discussion I'm trying to broach with Ozzy.

          It's easy enough to say we should grant the same rights to children as adults, but what about the real ramifications. Things like child labour, child marriage, pedophilia, etc.

          Children are afforded extra protections under our law because we concede that they are not mentally and/or physically capable to handle certain things. But if we remove that concession (which is a necessary part to granting equal rights), then we should also remove all of those protections.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #6
            They'd go away.
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            • #7
              “A girl can get married when she’s an adult - for some girls that is when they are 15 and for others when they are nine.”


              Good lord. This woman thinks people become adults at 9.

              Marrying at 15 or 16 is retarded. People don't know their ass from a hand grenade at 15 or 16.
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              • #8
                "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
                  People don't know their ass from a hand grenade at 15 or 16.
                  This is an insult to all the young martyrs of Palestine and the dedicated boys in Angola.



                  Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                  The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                  The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                  • #10
                    1st pic, the two in the background look like dwarves, not children. And I'm pretty sure the one on the left is Gary Coleman.




                    Just sayin'
                    Last edited by Ecofarm; March 29, 2010, 09:59.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Asher View Post
                      This is the kind of discussion I'm trying to broach with Ozzy.

                      It's easy enough to say we should grant the same rights to children as adults, but what about the real ramifications. Things like child labour, child marriage, pedophilia, etc.

                      Children are afforded extra protections under our law because we concede that they are not mentally and/or physically capable to handle certain things. But if we remove that concession (which is a necessary part to granting equal rights), then we should also remove all of those protections.
                      Yep - completely agree.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        This is the kind of discussion I'm trying to broach with Ozzy.

                        It's easy enough to say we should grant the same rights to children as adults, but what about the real ramifications. Things like child labour, child marriage, pedophilia, etc.
                        There are a fair number of salient differences between American and Yemenese societies.

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                        • #13
                          But isn't Ozzy's point that we shouldn't base rights on age? The societal differences don't seem to matter.

                          I'm curious where Ozzy stands in terms of marriage, child labour, pedophilia, etc. I understand that he definitely doesn't support any of the above if the child protests (duh), but what if the child decided they wanted to (coerced or genuine)? They want to marry as a 9 year old, they "want" to work 12 hours a day picking pineapples in Hawaii, they "want" to be in pornographic films as a 13 year old, etc.

                          Do we afford them the rights to do so?
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            But isn't Ozzy's point that we shouldn't base rights on age? The societal differences don't seem to matter.
                            I disagree.

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                            • #15
                              But what about American culture, Kuci? For example, how would pedophilia laws change if we were to enact equal rights for youth?
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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