"Wait untill Mandela dies!"

[Kitschum]

So if a nation was mostly isolated and if its people didn't have a high standard of living or lived under constant terror then South Korean or Finnish IQs would be no different than those of Australian Aboriginies?

I have a nut for you to crack if you think this.




North Korea (107).

I'm suspicious of that number. Did somebody really give a sample of North Koreans an IQ test or is the score naively 'inferred' somehow?

I pointed out to you how Lynn was careless with data wrt Iran in the other thread and this might be another case that would benefit from closer scrutiny.

[Kidlicious]

The sources you mean?

Yeah, I don't want to fool you by looking at the sources.

[DaShi]

I can accept a fully environmental explanation as plausible if not the most likley. And I belive we need to do our very best to find out what is the cause of the IQ gaps. Economic or educational boosts don't seem to be doing much to help close it (no measurable effect so far). If its environmental we need to know exactly whats behind it before we can combat it. And combating it is of vital importance to the survival of the politcal entities of the United States of America, the United Kingdome and French Republic not to mention to the future prospects of the Third World.

We do know what's behind it. The literature is so prolific you have to deliberately choose to ignore it.

[MikeH]

Exactly.

[Heraclitus]

We do know what's behind it. The literature is so prolific you have to deliberately choose to ignore it.

You are paining a consensus that does not exist. How does your idea o f the consenus explain black regression to a lower mean or the cros racial adoption studies?

You also keep claiming these sort of things without providing citations of any sort. I am aware of much of the literature you speak of, but its good form to cite so I know what I am debating. I have provided sources or proxy sources for much of what I claim, you would be more likley to convince me if you criticzed those sources (like Kitschum does) or point out flaws in them or contradictions to other respected sources.


But I suspect neither of us has the energy or patience to continue doing this considering how we keep talking past each other.

I pointed out to you how Lynn was careless with data wrt Iran in the other thread and this might be another case that would benefit from closer scrutiny.

Finally someone debating on the points. Yes the North Korean IQ value given by Lynn is a glaring anomaly. The IQ should be lower considering modern starvation. I'm trying to hunt down any info on how he got the numbers.


Perhaps North Koreas population is relativley old and the bulk of the population grew up & was educated in the period after the Korean War and before the economic woes of the late 80s.

[Ecofarm]

I'm trying to hunt down any info on how he got the numbers.

I believe that is step one. You went directly to step five, declare the study/poll/guess authoritative.

That proves you are not the slightest bit interested in "researching".

[Heraclitus]

I believe that is step one. You went directly to step five, declare the study/poll/guess authoritative.

That proves you are not the slightest bit interested in "researching".

Listen I've generaly reviewed how he got most of European and US numbers as well as the numbers for several Latin American countries. Not having NK on hand or r. isn't really step 1. We take all sorts of thing on authority by trusting what the experts are saying and how works stand up to peer review.

[DaShi]

You are paining a consensus that does not exist. How does your idea o f the consenus explain black regression to a lower mean or the cros racial adoption studies?

Because these have been addressed. On this very forum. Go back to one of your other racist threads.

You also keep claiming these sort of things without providing citations of any sort. I am aware of much of the literature you speak of, but its good form to cite so I know what I am debating. I have provided sources or proxy sources for much of what I claim, you would be more likley to convince me if you criticzed those sources (like Kitschum does) or point out flaws in them or contradictions to other respected sources.

Unlike you, I don't have time to engage in such nonsense of rediscovering a wheel that I have little interest in. Besides a bit a intellilect will guide you quickly to the answers you seek and away from the bogus propaganda.

But I suspect neither of us has the energy or patience to continue doing this considering how we keep talking past each other.

No, you're just too retarded to do your homework and want someone else to do it for you. Get a job!