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  • #16
    Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
    Drake, I believe it's your turn. DaShi, come on over here and keep your nose up Drake's ass.
    Petty much?
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
      Man, it must suck to be a 24-year old and have your wages lowered (in one of the most expensive places to live in the country, no less) to pay for a generous healthcare package you'll most likely never take full advantage of.
      This hurts a bit, but I have to agree with Drake partly.

      If I get it rigth,then you are only insured if you have more than 20 hours of work and it's probably dropped when fired. It's pretty idiotic that only people in work are covered - i.e. out of work - getting sick - no help - don't get a job etc. - bad circle.

      If instead, the payment is an insurance that also covers out of work, retirement, then payment as young begins to make sense.

      Yeah, "that's what insurance companies are for" I hear, but that's not true - insurance companies only exist to make money, not helping people.

      Sorry for agreeing with you Drake - will do my best not doing it in the future
      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

      Steven Weinberg

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      • #18
        Actually, I believe that you still get benefits for awhile even after you've lost your job.
        “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
        "Capitalism ho!"

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        • #19
          Yeah, probably, but I guess that there is a limit. Here in our evil commie society, all pay a small amount from young to old and have a lifetime healtcare guarantee.

          Young people are probably pissed since they have to pay for something that they don't need, but strangely, when they get older, they seem to find the idea kind of good - guess that it's because old people are loosing their mind
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

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          • #20
            Should we copy their fugitive retrieval program as well?

            Monkey!!!

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            • #21
              That's me right? I miss you guys too.
              Everybody knows...Democracy...One of Us Cannot be Wrong...War...Fanatics

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              • #22
                Please stop quoting Sloww.

                "Pretty universal"?

                "almost pregnant"?

                "half dead"?

                It either is or it isn't.



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                • #23
                  Well, I guess that if you are in trouble considering healt care, this may be the solution .



                  Though, it could be a problem if a large amount of hospitals are the target of people rebellion.
                  With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                  Steven Weinberg

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Japher View Post
                    Should we copy their fugitive retrieval program as well?

                    ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                    ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Caligastia View Post
                      Hey, stop laughing - this is the prime US law enforcer
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                      Steven Weinberg

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                        "Pretty universal"?

                        "almost pregnant"?

                        "half dead"?

                        It either is or it isn't.
                        You're going to tell me that you have never, EVER, in you life felt half dead?
                        I'm afraid I'm going to have to call bull**** on you, Wezil. I ain't buying it.
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                          Hey, stop laughing - this is the prime US law enforcer
                          You know you've made it when you have a snappy theme song. Dog!.. The Bounty Hunter!
                          Monkey!!!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                            You're going to tell me that you have never, EVER, in you life felt half dead?
                            I'm afraid I'm going to have to call bull**** on you, Wezil. I ain't buying it.

                            Yes, right now actually. It was a rough night.
                            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                            • #29
                              I've gone from half to 3/4 this morning. By mid afternoon I hope to be human again.
                              Everybody knows...Democracy...One of Us Cannot be Wrong...War...Fanatics

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                                Man, it must suck to be a 24-year old and have your wages lowered (in one of the most expensive places to live in the country, no less) to pay for a generous healthcare package you'll most likely never take full advantage of.
                                The argument with conservatives ends here.

                                To put it simply, they prefer to pay for a more expensive and inefficient system because they wish not to spread the total burden over the total population. Universal Care would cover more people costing less money, albeit burdening a limited portion with the extra costs, but they'll have none of it.

                                And why? Sheer selfishness as Drake just pointed out.
                                "An archaeologist is the best husband a women can have; the older she gets, the more interested he is in her." - Agatha Christie
                                "Non mortem timemus, sed cogitationem mortis." - Seneca

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