Major forum issue

[notyoueither]

So we are agreed.

Here's my favourite part that can easily be distilled:



But a few posts prior:



You've now one-upped this by trying to pretend like the context of the latter quote was not in oil sands projects. The only problem is, it was. Click on your name in that post to be taken to it. You are replying to my reply about your post about how oil sands projects are re-starting, not conventional oil. The context was clear. You said the oil companies' claims about how the renewed royalty rates would inhibit further development of the oil sands were bull****, then a few posts later you claimed to say no such thing. It's one of many examples of your behaviour in that thread. You still won't admit it.

The complete quote, you lying sack of dishonest dip****ery.

There were too many projects going before the Financial Mess and before the royalty mess. That is why some were being shelved even back then.

Your SO should have no problem so long as the price of oil and appetite for it stay 'healthy.'

That's the point. The noise about the royalties and effects on investment were bull****. It's pretty easy to complain about new levels of taxation when you were planning to shut down for other reasons.

I was discussing the flurry of planned oilsands projects that were cancelled or shelved due to a variety of factors such as the then high costs of labour and materials, the price of oil crashing, the economic crisis, etc.

Do you have an honest bone in your body, Captain Bull****?

[Asher]

The complete quote, you lying sack of dishonest dip****ery.

There were too many projects going before the Financial Mess and before the royalty mess. That is why some were being shelved even back then.

Your SO should have no problem so long as the price of oil and appetite for it stay 'healthy.'

That's the point. The noise about the royalties and effects on investment were bull****. It's pretty easy to complain about new levels of taxation when you were planning to shut down for other reasons.

I was discussing the flurry of planned oilsands projects that were cancelled or shelved due to a variety of factors such as the then high costs of labour and materials, the price of oil crashing, the economic crisis, etc.

Do you have an honest bone in your body, Captain Bull****?

You quite clearly said the oil companies' claims that the new royalties would deter investment were "bull****". No one had ever said (not even the oil companies) that the royalties were the ONLY reason some projects were cancelled. In fact, Flubber and I each spent dozens of posts trying to get you to understand the many issues that get factored into the economic viability of a project.

Flubber and I were telling you royalties increasing would impact the viability of projects. You told us how these were claims from the oil companies and they were bull****. You cited a couple small projects coming back online as proof at the oil companies' claims were bull****. You then quoted a PDF which echoed, exactly, what Flubber and I were saying. Considering it was your own source, you could no longer deny it...and as such, you've decided to deny saying it in the first place. Even though it's right there.

I'm not sure why you find this all so complicated. I don't think you actually do, I think you're just trying to squirm your way out of this again.

Even now, your first excuse for it was that I took it out of context -- that you were talking about conventional oil, not oil sands. Now that I've disproven that as well, you've changed your excuse yet again...

[notyoueither]

Not squirming out of anything, Captain Bull****.

The first quote was about oilsands projects cancelled/shelved at a particular point in time. Note the tense. Note the subject.

The second quote was about current and future conditions in gas and conventional oil (mostly). I've repeatedly said that I don't know as much about those.

In fact I have also said, repeatedly, that the Government of Alberta should start a corporation to develop the resources if the private sector does not do so at an acceptable rate. I really do not see how I have denied that there could be a downturn in investment when much of the conversation I spent discussing what the GoA should do about it if and when it happens, Captain Bull****.

[Asher]

Is there an ETA for the fix so I can ignore him yet?

[notyoueither]

Don't know. Ask KH. He's *****ed about not being able to play the game with me from time to time.

[SlowwHand]

I'm some surprised. A Google image search for Captain Bull****. The very first image:

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hUqhilguoPs/SIVyKwog5TI/AAAAAAAACww/n4QuMVDH58M/s400/CaptainBull****.jpg[/img]

[Asher]

VJ, you are totally right BTW. I started a thread about Filipino real estate and there's an enthralling discussion: http://www.weplayciv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2209

[Asher]

And Buster's Uncle is awesome. Within seconds of registering, he wrote a visitor message to me asking to make me a custom avatar.

I told him what I like: beautiful women and Judaism. He made this avatar for me, which I am now wearing at WPC:

[Drake Tungsten]

If he's going to be an epic dumbass, we should be allowed to ignore him.

QFT

It's not that he's wrong (which he almost always is), I cannot ignore him when he continually posts after I told him I have no longer any interest in continuing this discussion with him by personally attacking me and misrepresenting what I had said.

Also QFT; it's ok to be wrong all the time as long as you're not a confrontational dick about it. That's why Oerdin isn't on my ignore list while I sincerely wish NYE could be.

[Elok]

Well, Asher isn't wrong any more frequently than the average poster, but he's the master at being a confrontational dick.

[notyoueither]

Interesting comment about being a confrontational dick. I can do that from time to time, be a confrontational dick. The question is when is Drake not?

Is this like the alternate universe Star Trek? Dishonest people accusing others of dishonestly? First class dicks being upset that others are like them from time to time? When does KH show up and get upset about me being abusive?

[Asher]

Well, Asher isn't wrong any more frequently than the average poster, but he's the master at being a confrontational dick.

And people are free to add me to their ignore lists, aren't they?

[Drake Tungsten]

Well, Asher isn't wrong any more frequently than the average poster, but he's the master at being a confrontational dick.

Being a confrontational dick is far more acceptable when you're the one who's right.

[notyoueither]

Not often acceptable for you then.

[Drake Tungsten]

See how pathetic it is?