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  • ABC News: Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes on ACOGs

    Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the United States military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.


    U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes
    Pentagon Supplier for Rifle Sights Says It Has 'Always' Added New Testament References

    By JOSEPH RHEE, TAHMAN BRADLEY and BRIAN ROSS
    Jan. 18, 2010 —

    Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the U.S. military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.

    The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.

    U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.

    One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."

    Other references include citations from the books of Revelation, Matthew and John dealing with Jesus as "the light of the world." John 8:12, referred to on the gun sights as JN8:12, reads, "Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

    Trijicon confirmed to ABCNews.com that it adds the biblical codes to the sights sold to the U.S. military. Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, which is based in Wixom, Michigan, said the inscriptions "have always been there" and said there was nothing wrong or illegal with adding them. Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is "not Christian." The company has said the practice began under its founder, Glyn Bindon, a devout Christian from South Africa who was killed in a 2003 plane crash.

    'It violates the Constitution'

    The company's vision is described on its Web site: "Guided by our values, we endeavor to have our products used wherever precision aiming solutions are required to protect individual freedom."
    "We believe that America is great when its people are good," says the Web site. "This goodness has been based on Biblical standards throughout our history, and we will strive to follow those morals."

    Spokespeople for the U.S. Army and the Marine Corps both said their services were unaware of the biblical markings. They said officials were discussing what steps, if any, to take in the wake of the ABCNews.com report. It is not known how many Trijicon sights are currently in use by the U.S. military.

    The biblical references appear in the same type font and size as the model numbers on the company's Advanced Combat Optical Guides, called the ACOG.

    A photo on a Department of Defense Web site shows Iraqi soldiers being trained by U.S. troops with a rifle equipped with the bible-coded sights.

    "It's wrong, it violates the Constitution, it violates a number of federal laws," said Michael "Mikey" Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an advocacy group that seeks to preserve the separation of church and state in the military.

    'Firearms of Jesus Christ'

    "It allows the Mujahedeen, the Taliban, al Qaeda and the insurrectionists and jihadists to claim they're being shot by Jesus rifles," he said.

    Weinstein, an attorney and former Air Force officer, said many members of his group who currently serve in the military have complained about the markings on the sights. He also claims they've told him that commanders have referred to weapons with the sights as "spiritually transformed firearm[s] of Jesus Christ."

    He said coded biblical inscriptions play into the hands of "those who are calling this a Crusade."

    According to a government contracting watchdog group, fedspending.org, Trijicon had more than $100 million in government contracts in fiscal year 2008. The Michigan company won a $33 million Pentagon contract in July, 2009 for a new machine gun optic, according to Defense Industry Daily. The company's earnings from the U.S. military jumped significantly after 2005, when it won a $660 million long-term contract to supply the Marine Corps with sights.

    "This is probably the best example of violation of the separation of church and state in this country," said Weinstein. "It's literally pushing fundamentalist Christianity at the point of a gun against the people that we're fighting. We're emboldening an enemy."
    This is silly. The "codes" are just plaintext strings appended to the item codes. Would anybody even recognize the significance of "ACOG4X32JN8:12" if it weren't explained to them?

    This isn't shoving religion in people's faces, and it's hardly antagonizing the hajis. I mean, I doubt there are any fence sitting Afghans who think "Well, I used to be okay with America until I found out that they put alphanumeric codes that refer to the Bible on their rifle scopes." Compared to the official status of military chaplains, and the pushiness of some of the evangelicals, this is small potatoes.
    John Brown did nothing wrong.

  • #2
    Jesus Rifles would be awesome.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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    • #3
      Would they fire small Jesuses around?
      Blah

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      • #4
        COTS items always have such issues. We can have the government design the item already in existance and then pay x20 more for it though if desired.

        I say its irrelevant, COTS saves time and money. Its a private firm, it can put whatever it wants on it. If we are really that uptight about it just file off the numbers.
        "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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        • #5
          I don't think the military is very uptight about it. I think it's some hot-headed psycho atheists who are looking for something to complain about.

          It's just like those Christian groups who freak out when somebody says "Happy Holidays." These are just professional jerks who need to stir up **** in order to get publicity.
          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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          • #6
            Ah, I see now that you are right and this is just another Wienstien temper tantrum. Disregarded
            "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
              Jesus Rifles would be awesome.
              They would plainly identify the disconnect between "Christian Values" and the people today who call themselves Christian.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #8
                It's not something that I'm worked up about, but seriously guys? Jesus on your freaking rifles?

                -Arrian
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Asher View Post
                  They would plainly identify the disconnect between "Christian Values" and the people today who call themselves Christian.
                  I thought they'd just enable snipers to make "miracle" shots.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #10
                    Maybe they should print "What would Jesus do?" on the sights of the rifles.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #11
                      The Temple Moneychangers would argue that he'd prolly take the shot.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #12
                        What Jesus would do has nothing to do with what Team Jesus does. Christianity is a long way from its roots. Since Constantine it has been militarized to the point that it's silly to conflate Christian values with Christian actions. Plenty of people are a la carte Christians who think that Heaven is cool, and are fans of Christmas, but also love the idea of curb stomping their fellow man. Is it hypocritical? Sure. But if these people weren't killing people over religion, they'd be killing people over nationalism, or political ideology, or tribal vendettas, or soccer matches. Some people just want to get their kill on, and look for any reason to do so. Why spoil their fun?

                        What Jesus would do is turn the other cheek. What Team Jesus does is hunt down Team Mohammed and turn their guys into pink mist.
                        John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                        • #13
                          While this whole thing is obscure and silly, it's not allowed and should be eliminated. I do find the concept of Jesus rifles pretty hilarious though.
                          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                          • #14
                            I'm amazed that this is one of those times when this isn't actually just a coincindence. I honestly don't care at all about the issue, but the fact that the company actually makes an effort to do this is mildly disturbing.
                            "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                            "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
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                            • #15
                              It's not at all surprising. One of the best fast-food chains in the world (In-n-out burger) writes biblical phrases on the bottom of their cups, too.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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