Why haven't we been back to the moon?

[Serb]

Never thought that those hundreds or thousands of people honestly believe they worked for a Moon programm (they nver knew the full details at the first place and just did their small piece of work of the programm that failed and substituted with a movie)?
Most of the people can't explain magician's tricks, but they know it's just a show and tricks and ready to argue with anyone who says it's not. Because this is what they believe. If you look on this from this angle, if you believed these landings were just a trick (you don't need to know how exactly magician pull the rabbit out of the hat to realise it's just a trick), then you would laugh on anyone who believed that landings were for real.

This whole lunar crap looks very suspicious. And the deeper you dig, the more suspicious it is.


p.s another beer please.

[Drake Tungsten]

Sputnik was a hoax and Yuri Gagarin was a liar and a queer.

[ricketyclik]

beep... beep... beep

[Flubber]

Never thought that those hundreds or thousands of people honestly believe they worked for a Moon programm (they nver knew the full details at the first place and just did their small piece of work of the programm that failed and substituted with a movie)?.

Nope

So your belief is that "the conspirators" fooled all of NASA into thinking they had succeeded when they actually had not? So was the launch faked and the astronauts lounged on a beach for a couple of days?

[Flubber]

DP

[Boris Godunov]

If the moon landings were fake, then the Russians were the stupidest pussies on the planet for giving up their moon program after the Apollo missions and not raising even the possibility that the USA faked it at the time.

[ricketyclik]

If the moon landings were fake, then the Russians were the stupidest pussies on the planet for giving up their moon program after the Apollo missions and not raising even the possibility that the USA faked it at the time.

Without pretending to know for sure either way (although my opinion is that the landings took place) to me this is a pretty compelling argument.

[Flubber]

If the moon landings were fake, then the Russians were the stupidest pussies on the planet for giving up their moon program after the Apollo missions and not raising even the possibility that the USA faked it at the time.

Didn't you know? The Russians were in on it


Seriously though, If all these things that the conspiracy folks say prove it was fake are so obvious why wouldn't the Russians with the power of a nation state behind them just totally embarrass the US

Was the entire Cold War faked??

[Darius871]

Was the entire Cold War faked??

In zakuHL's own little fantasy world, I'm sure Lenin, Stalin, and other Communist leaders were just NWO plants meticulously designed to discredit any later efforts to challenge the power elite. I have to say they did a damned good job.

[HalfLotus]

Nope

So your belief is that "the conspirators" fooled all of NASA into thinking they had succeeded when they actually had not? So was the launch faked and the astronauts lounged on a beach for a couple of days?

A more plausible explanation would be that the astronauts cruised around in low earth orbit (definitely doable at the time) while the CIA/NASA beamed "moonwalk" footage to boob tubes around the world. The video I linked earlier supports the low-earth orbit hypothesis.

The only people who were needed to lie about it (e.g. conspire) were the astronauts themselves, the guys who shot fake moon footage (think medium sized film crew) and a few higher-ups at NASA. Everyone else is compartmentalized within the project and led to believe the pretty convincing TV footage. Watch the post-mission press conference with Aldrin, Armstrong, and the other guy - they're as nervous as long-tailed cats in a room full of rocking chairs.

As to the capability of keeping a big secret with many conspirators, I point to the Manhattan project.

[BlackCat]

The only people who were needed to lie about it (e.g. conspire) were the astronauts themselves, the guys who shot fake moon footage (think medium sized film crew) and a few higher-ups at NASA.

Not quite true - you would have to include the soviet in the conspiracy. They were quite able to figure out if something was coming from low orbit or the moon. The Chinese is a bit more questionable, but they could probably also. Then there are the rest of the world and their capability to monitor such, but I assume you belive they all were controlled by CIA

[Flubber]

A more plausible explanation would be that the astronauts cruised around in low earth orbit (definitely doable at the time) while the CIA/NASA beamed "moonwalk" footage to boob tubes around the world. The video I linked earlier supports the low-earth orbit hypothesis.

The only people who were needed to lie about it (e.g. conspire) were the astronauts themselves, the guys who shot fake moon footage (think medium sized film crew) and a few higher-ups at NASA. Everyone else is compartmentalized within the project and led to believe the pretty convincing TV footage.

So the President , cabinet etc wouldn't have been part of it? How about the folks that gathered the "fake" moon rocks, or put them in the capsul (or conversely had the job of bringing the samples in only there were not any). Someone hasd to present them as real-- How about geologists that might look at said rocks?

and all those dudes in their compartmemtalized roles looking at dozens of readings and guages and all that wouldn't have noticed anything since the guages and readings were all pre-programmed to change as they should during an actual moon landing right?


Oh and the low earth orbit for photo theory- do you have them having the ability to stay on the moon side of earth at all times since it would be pretty basic stuff for people to notice what side of earth was toward the moon at any given time.

So did they have a spacecraft that could maintain that position at all times or big sheafs of transparencies to be ready for the various positions and potential cloud formations they might need (and of course the compartmentalized folks that do the pre-launch wouldn't have noticed the extra stuff aboard the vehicle as the astronauts carried it inside their space suit??

[HalfLotus]

There were quite a few people, Russians included, who expressed doubts about the moon landings at the time. Also 1/3 of the American public was skeptical in a post-mission poll.

You don't have to fool everybody all the time, just most of the people most of the time.

[BlackCat]

There were quite a few people, Russians included, who expressed doubts about the moon landings at the time. Also 1/3 of the American public was skeptical in a post-mission poll.

You don't have to fool everybody all the time, just most of the people most of the time.

Sure, there was of course people in denial, typically those not burdened with facts. Soviet would have cried out loudly if they had any evidence of fraud, but since they didn't, they accepted the fact that the moon landing had been done.

[KrazyHorse]

Keeping a spacecraft along the Earth-Moon axis when it's actually only a couple of hundred miles up would imply that the spacecraft was providing almost 1g of acceleration for the whole time.

Anybody with a modicum of sense can see that would be orders of magnitude more difficult than actually, you know, flying the ship to the moon and back.

Plus an object at LEO altitude would show massively wrong parallax to amateur astronomers at the time who independently observed its position in the sky for at least part of the journey.

What a ****ing nincompoop.