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I didn't say Methodists were connected to Baptists. I said they are both Protestant religions, and they are.Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View PostLife is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ BraindeadComment
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Totally not what I was referring to.Originally posted by Asher View PostOpen your eyes, Kuci.
Missionaries openly exist to indoctrinate others in their religion. The services they provide were merely to get the undivided attention of the populace.Comment
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Is this a joke?Originally posted by Asher View PostI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Oh, I see. You were referring to sexual touching.
It's too early in the morning for me to think about that."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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No.Originally posted by DanS View Post
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_(Christian)
In modern missionary strategy, mission stations and/or Mission hospitals are deprecated, because they were historically ineffective. Mission stations normally created disaffected individual converts, often seen as an outcast by their family and culture. In many cases, the only source of converts to a mission station were the orphans raised in the station's orphanage. Also, many mission station's converts were so alienated from surrounding cultures that they were unable to get work outside the mission station, let alone act as cultural ambassadors for Christianity. In some cases, these paid "rice bowl Christians" actively impeded Christian conversion in the mission's schools and orphanages so that their own incomes would not be reduced as more Christians came to depend on the mission station.
Modern pioneering missionary doctrines now focus on inserting a culturally adapted seed of Christian doctrines into a self-selected, self-motivated group of native believers, without removing the natives from their culture in any way.
Modern mission techniques are sufficiently refined that within ten to fifteen years, most native churches are natively pastored, managed, taught, self-supporting and evangelizing. The process can be substantially faster if a preexisting translation of the Bible and higher pastoral education are already available, perhaps left-over from earlier, less effective missions.
A key approach is to let native cultural groups decide to adopt Christian doctrines and benefits, when (as in most cultures) such major decisions are normally made by groups. In this way, opinion leaders in the groups can persuade much or most of the groups to convert. When combined with training in church planting and other modern missionary doctrine, the result is an accelerating, self-propelled conversion of large portions of the culture."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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That Wiki article doesn't appear to be backed up by any facts.
There are over 600 catholic hospitals in the US with over 120,000 beds.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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The context is clearly that of foreign missionaries.Originally posted by DanS View Post
I'm curious, do the 600 "Catholic" hospitals in the US provide free care? Or do you need to go bankrupt to be saved by a Jesus Doctor?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Rubbish.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Rubbish?Originally posted by DanS View Post
Seriously?
You think it is this is referring to US hospitals when it refers to using "natives"?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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You pay based on your means.Originally posted by Asher View PostI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Regardless, that Wiki article doesn't present any facts to back it up. It doesn't help your argument.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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So if I was homeless, I could walk into a Catholic hospital and say "yo, gimmie chemo"?Originally posted by DanS View Post
If it was as you portray, zero people would be in medical debt because everyone who couldn't afford their medical treatment would go to one of these Honky-Dory Catholic Hospitals."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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So you are challenging the assertion that foreign missionary hospitals were not effective and the church has a new strategy as detailed in the article?Originally posted by DanS View Post
That's fine, believe whatever you want. That's what religion is all about, isn't it?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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I'm saying that you have presented no facts to back up your assertion.Originally posted by Asher View PostI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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