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How "Christian" of him!!
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With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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They'd cut homeless shelters, food programs for needy families, and health services rather than provide equal benefits for employees in same-sex marriages.
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov View PostWell, off hand I would say that employment discrimination and medical procedures are entirely different matters.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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Ben is doing fantastic work in this thread demonstrating many things very succinctly. Namely:
1) He fails at reading comprehension
2) He fails at fundamental analysis
3) He dramatically overstates his case to absurd degrees (forcing synagogues to hire muslims)
4) He, just like the Church brass, is so completely out of touch with reality that he doesn't understand how just how tremendously damaging this story is to the Church's cultural cachet and relevance
5) He pointedly chooses to ignore fundamental Christian tenets because of his irrational hatred and disrespect for homosexuals
The Catholic church has a jetpack strapped to its back and it's fast on its way to having the same cultural respect and relevancy of the KKK. When they're not molesting children, they're turning the other cheek on the sick and needy.Last edited by Asher; December 15, 2009, 21:32."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Ming View PostWhile the 'true faithful" will cheer on the Archbishop, many more christians will be disgusted....I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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Originally posted by DinoDoc View PostI suggest you look at recent election results."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Asher View Post5) He pointedly chooses to ignore fundamental Christian tenants because of his irrational hatred and disrespect for homosexuals
WRT the actual topic, the city wouldn't be in this ridiculous position if they managed to have functional social services in the first place. And while I don't think the RCC is doing the right thing here, that article is more than a little silly. "Using gay marriage as an excuse to hurt the needy"? Yes, because the local bishop's been scheming for years to screw the homeless.It'd be far more accurate to say they're using their monopoly (or near-monopoly) on local charity work as a weapon against the gay community.
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Originally posted by Elok View PostWhile I've never been a landlord, I don't think it'd be too hard to ignore fundamental Christian tenants. In all likelihood very few of them drink or make much noise partying, they don't wreck the place, and they're rarely if ever late with the rent.
Yes, because the local bishop's been scheming for years to screw the homeless."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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This is starting to seem like a misleading thread title. The information I'm seeing is that the Church will continue to provide social and charitable services); it is only in cases where there is a contracted or licensed service that the District would adjudge the Church to be ineligible to provide those services on a contractual basis. If DC does not grant the exemptions that would be in keeping with the Catholic's tenets, the assumption is that the Church would no longer be eligible to be licensed or contracted to provide those services.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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Originally posted by Asher View PostFixed, you incomprehensibly smug jackass.
You're right, it's an absurd assumption. Clearly he's been busy scheming for years on how to best molest the nation's children and avoid detection.
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That's as I understand it, Dino.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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So it seems as if the City is the one banning the Church from providing social services.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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The Church is under contract to provide services, for which it receives government money. It wants to break the contract because the government introduced a new clause. What is wrong with this exactly?"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier
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How can the district retroactively change the terms of the contract by adding a clause? Is that what happened? If so, somebody cite it.
If the district just passed a law requiring something else independent of the contract, that's not the same thing. And in this case the church would be in breach of the contract."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Berzerker View PostBut how many married gays work for the Church?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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