Would You Quit Over This? (work advice)

[Asher]

My employed quite appreciated my help and it mewan I have a wonderful relationship with those folks to this day

Even just talking about NFLD makes you descend into talking like a newfie.

[Flubber]

In Alberta the severance period goes up with years employed. After twenty years it's quite a bit.
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The unofficial rule of thumb for professionals (in Canada) is one month severance per year of service with 3 months as a minimum and with many employers being reluctant to pay out more than a year at the top end. The higher up you are , the more you often can get but it all depends.

Oh ya and the employee can get a bunch extra if they terminate the employee in any way deemed embarrassing or humiliating.

Anyone can be fired with no notice and no severance during the first ninety days, no reason is required. That is probation, and it cannot be extended.

Source? I am not saying you are wrong but when I was hired there was never any probation specified and I would have been shocked to have been terminated with no notice because I was "on probation. I have seen probationary employees let go but that was specified in their employment offer (aleternatively we offer someone a fixed term of employment and if it works out we extend them)

[Flubber]

To the OP

I would never quit a job until I had my next one. Don't burn bridges, economic security yadda, yadda, yadda

[Dauphin]

Why in hell would you need to prove anything? You're innocent by default, not guilty!

Shake out of it onodera!

I'm happy to report that "employment booklets" are being abolished in Croatia. The
latest changes in the labour law saw them removed.

For one, if an employer doesn't check employment history, their insurance won't pay out in the event of the employee losing the company money due to incompetence, malfeasance, etc....

[Flubber]

Even just talking about NFLD makes you descend into talking like a newfie.

nah-- I just always type like a piss-poor typiat err typist

[VetLegion]

For one, if an employer doesn't check employment history, their insurance won't pay out in the event of the employee losing the company money due to incompetence, malfeasance, etc....

Well that's why you have HR people. A competent HR person can verify someone's
references and track record back to high school in a couple of hours.

The problem with "employment books" is that they stem from the same mentality
that brought us "internal passports" and stamps and permits for every stupid little
thing imaginable.

For example, here the book is an official document, you have to get one prior to your
first employment. While you work it is deposited at your employer's and when
you change jobs you need to get it back and deposit it with the new employer.
This leads to problems if you leave the company on bad terms... employer can stall
you by not giving the book back immediately. Also, I don't know what happens if
you lose the book, but it probably involves losing a couple of days of vacation to get
a new one. And to boot, it's a dossier containing not only your work history but also
some notes by former employers if they see fit to put them in. Also, you need to
write in all your qualifications, and to do that you need to prove them to the state.
Terrible.

Good riddance.

[KrazyHorse]

at third world countries

to Croatia attempting to join the modern world

[Dauphin]

Well that's why you have HR people. A competent HR person can verify someone's
references and track record back to high school in a couple of hours.

I thought you were implying that you don't need to prove prior employment. I thought "employment book" was an odd wording for something else more run of the mill (e.g "employment history").

Anyone who doesn't request a reference is asking for trouble.

[KrazyHorse]

Most former employers in the US (large employers, at least) will refuse to provide anything other than job title and dates of employment when contacted for a reference.

[Dauphin]

Same here usually. That's all you need to clear a lot of problems. At least knowing they worked there is better than finding out they lied a couple of years down the line.

[VetLegion]

Tomorrow or the the day after I decide what to do. Thanks for the input, everyone.
I'll log in to let you know what happened.

[notyoueither]

The unofficial rule of thumb for professionals (in Canada) is one month severance per year of service with 3 months as a minimum and with many employers being reluctant to pay out more than a year at the top end. The higher up you are , the more you often can get but it all depends.

Oh ya and the employee can get a bunch extra if they terminate the employee in any way deemed embarrassing or humiliating.




Source? I am not saying you are wrong but when I was hired there was never any probation specified and I would have been shocked to have been terminated with no notice because I was "on probation. I have seen probationary employees let go but that was specified in their employment offer (aleternatively we offer someone a fixed term of employment and if it works out we extend them)

I shouldn't have said anyone. An employer may have policies that are above the minimum required by the Employment Standards Code, or there may be a contract, etc. The code is a minimum, and applies to most hourly workers.

There's also the federal code which applies to companies subject to federal regulations (banks, airlines, federal contractors, etc).

http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?page=E09.cfm&leg_type=Acts&isbncln=9780779725663

Options for employer to terminate employment
55(1) Unless subsection (2) applies, an employer may terminate the employment of an employee only by giving the employee

...

(2) Termination notice is not required

(a) to terminate the employment of an employee for just cause,

(b) when an employee has been employed by the employer for 3 months or less,

...

[DanS]

No, you can fire somebody in most states in the US for any reason or no reason at all and not pay them ANY severance.

I don't know the severance part to be true. The vast majority of folks don't have contracts, but I think that at least those who work full time in all but the smallest companies have some protections.

[DanS]

VL: As stated above in reply to KH, the vast majority of people in the US do not work under labor contracts. Your English is fine.

[DanS]

Wow, those employment book thingies are bizarre. What if I have more than one job or you do short-term work to get by? Jesus, my employment book would look complicated.