Would You Quit Over This? (work advice)

[KrazyHorse]

I have no professional experience.

I know that people who have careers rather than **** jobs give reasonable notice (not because the law says they have to, of course).

Apparently the standard in finance is that once you give notice you leave the building that day. Generally within a half hour.

[KrazyHorse]

It applies to final pay.

If the employee quits effective immediately there's no reason AFAIK that you have to pay their "notice" period. You probably still have to give them their accrued vacation etc.

[KrazyHorse]

You don't, you sue them after. Or you threaten to sue them when they say they quit, pointing to the law.

Sue them because they did a crappy job in their notice period?

[notyoueither]

But if they give notice and you dismiss them immediately, you have to pay them severance and holiday pay accrued.

If they do a Johnny Paycheck, you don't owe them severance.

[Asher]

I have no professional experience.

I know that people who have careers rather than **** jobs give reasonable notice (not because the law says they have to, of course).

Apparently the standard in finance is that once you give notice you leave the building that day. Generally within a half hour.

Same with tech -- the damage you can do is pretty extensive.

When I was laid off my account was locked at the precise moment I entered the meeting.

[Asher]

Sue them because they did a crappy job in their notice period?

Sue them for disrupting your business. You'd have grounds, given they didn't adhere to the law. I'm sure it's mostly for the deterrent: "You can't quit, look at the law. I can sue."

[KrazyHorse]

But if they give notice and you dismiss them immediately, you have to pay them severance and holiday pay accrued.

If they do a Johnny Paycheck, you don't owe them severance.

I have no idea what you mean by "Johnny Paycheck" but I think we're agreeing. My point is simply that the law forcing employees to give notice has no impact on how much you have to pay them. That part comes from the law forcing you to give employees notice.

[notyoueither]

Take this job and shove it would be Jonny Paycheck.

My point is simply that the law forcing employees to give notice has no impact on how much you have to pay them. That part comes from the law forcing you to give employees notice.

They are connected. The bottom line is if you quit with no notice you do not enjoy the benefit of labour code protection for severance.

[notyoueither]

The labour code protections for severance are pretty tight.

I dismissed someone for insubordination, sabotage, and theft.

I ended up paying two weeks severance. I didn't fight it all the way, but the labour board was determined on the part of the employee. In the end it was not worth it as I did not have recordings of the employee's misconduct.

[Provost Harrison]

I have no professional experience.

I know that people who have careers rather than **** jobs give reasonable notice (not because the law says they have to, of course).

Apparently the standard in finance is that once you give notice you leave the building that day. Generally within a half hour.

It's very hard for a company to have any comeback on someone who leaves without serving notice. It is very bad form to do so, however.

[Provost Harrison]

Ah yes, employers. I have some big ones with my former employers (although the departure was actually quite amicable). I won't go into too much detail.

Worked in the labs for 2.5 years and despite exemplary performance was never given an upgrade. It was promised in "the next six months" but never materialised.

Was moved onto a project for 1.5 years which was good. In this time they took on a temp backfill for my position and managed to promote her despite not being as capable as myself. Funnily enough, she was the daughter-in-law of a former site director.

Despite 6 months warning that I didn't want to return to my old job and would rather do something else now (and making approaches to other departments) I was moved back to my old position to find that people who were previously junior to me had also been promoted above my level.

I promptly found another job doing what I actually wanted to do.

[Dauphin]

I would have to get or give three months notice.

To answer the OP. If you feel valued but screwed, its not so bad. If you feel used and abused, find another job and then go there.

[Dauphin]

I enjoy doing employee dispute investigations. Looking through e-mail accounts is fun, it's a trove of ammunition against staff.

[Dauphin]

The labour code protections for severance are pretty tight.

I dismissed someone for insubordination, sabotage, and theft.

I ended up paying two weeks severance. I didn't fight it all the way, but the labour board was determined on the part of the employee. In the end it was not worth it as I did not have recordings of the employee's misconduct.

You sacked someone without evidence, or did you just lose the evidence?!? I assume you wouldn't have put those as the reasons for dismissal.

[fed1943]

That must be a joke.
So, anyone wants to remain in the same company and, to achieve it, threats to sue it?