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  • Darius871
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    Originally posted by Asher View Post
    I understand the overlap. That's why it's distracting. Throwing in legal regulations that may or may not apply to the ACORN rep is pointless but introduces confusion. Exhibit A: This thread and the resulting threadjack.


    Actually it's fairly clear to me you don't understand the role of professional engineers. Professional engineers have to consult on and sign off on projects, for instance. Someone makes changes to a schematic, they need to run it by an engineer who can deem it to be safe and sign off for it.

    There's a substantial amount of ethics and legal responsibility involved. It's not as far removed as you may think it is.

    I still don't get why you keep up your irrelevant and confusing threadjack about whether legal ethics "apply." My point wasn't "that lady on the video violated legal ethics," but that "legal ethics are well known to be less averse to concealment of crime than ethical rules of other professions, so if her conduct would breach the former, more permissive standard, then a fortiori it'd be ****ing asinine to suggest as you did that her conduct is somehow par for the course in the field of tax advice."

    That's no more "confusing" than to say "if X's recreational marijuana use would break the law even in Oregon where medicinal use is legalized, then a fortiori his recreational use in Texas would certainly break the law, so it'd be ****ing asinine to suggest that Texans smoke weed with impunity." Quit being deliberately obtuse.

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  • Asher
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    Crusty socks, I'd think. (I hate that site)

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  • Kuciwalker
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    Every reddit poster is actually one of my sockpuppets.

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  • Asher
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    How do you know?

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  • Kuciwalker
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    I can guarantee they aren't downvoting because it's not newsworthy.

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  • Asher
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    Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
    reddit is attempting to suppress the story
    Are they trying to suppress it or are they burying it because it's a ****ing stupid hatchetjob?

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  • Asher
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    Originally posted by Darius871 View Post
    Are you seriously too dense to recognize the huge overlap between tax advice and legal advice, which is amply evidenced by some reciprocal parts of curricula, some mirrored provisions in the ABA and AICPA ethical codes, the huge number of lawyers in tax practice, and the countless prosecutions of so-called "tax advisors" for unlicensed practice of law?
    I understand the overlap. That's why it's distracting. Throwing in legal regulations that may or may not apply to the ACORN rep is pointless but introduces confusion. Exhibit A: This thread and the resulting threadjack.

    Engineering's about a galaxy away from both. In fact the analogy's so ridiculous that I'm now 100% certain you're trolling, but I just don't care.
    Actually it's fairly clear to me you don't understand the role of professional engineers. Professional engineers have to consult on and sign off on projects, for instance. Someone makes changes to a schematic, they need to run it by an engineer who can deem it to be safe and sign off for it.

    There's a substantial amount of ethics and legal responsibility involved. It's not as far removed as you may think it is.

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  • Kuciwalker
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    reddit is attempting to suppress the story

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  • Darius871
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    Originally posted by Asher View Post
    Obvious and reasonable, maybe -- irrelevant and distracting, yes.

    Distracting from what? There was never any expectation of serious discussion in this thread.

    Originally posted by Asher View Post
    If I wasn't feeling so lazy I would post 6 or 7 posts about the ethics of engineers and how it relates to this situation. Let's just pretend I did.

    Are you seriously too dense to recognize the huge overlap between tax advice and legal advice, which is amply evidenced by some reciprocal parts of curricula, some mirrored provisions in the ABA and AICPA ethical codes, the huge number of lawyers in tax practice, and the countless prosecutions of so-called "tax advisors" for unlicensed practice of law? Engineering's about a galaxy away from both. In fact the analogy's so ridiculous that I'm now 100% certain you're trolling, but I just don't care.
    Last edited by Darius871; September 10, 2009, 14:11.

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  • Asher
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    If I wasn't feeling so lazy I would post 6 or 7 posts about the ethics of engineers and how it relates to this situation. Let's just pretend I did.

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  • Asher
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    Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
    I can't believe Asher is pretending not to understand why Darius used an obvious and reasonable argument.
    Obvious and reasonable, maybe -- irrelevant and distracting, yes.

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  • Darius871
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    Originally posted by Asher View Post
    I speak for my people.

    Why you adamantly refuse to drag this troll on any longer is unknown to anyone but you.

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  • Kuciwalker
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    I can't believe Asher is pretending not to understand why Darius used an obvious and reasonable argument.

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  • Asher
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    Originally posted by Darius871 View Post
    Not the first time you presume to speak for everyone.
    I speak for my people.

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  • Darius871
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    Originally posted by Asher View Post
    for some reason unknown to anyone but you.
    Not the first time you presume to speak for everyone.

    Originally posted by Asher View Post
    I'm not a lawyer so to me the implication may be that the tax advisor may have some kind of limited power of attorney or something to fill out the forms and therefore subject to the legal ethics as a lawyer would be as well.
    I never implied that tax advisors are subject to "legal ethics," but instead said in black and white that non-lawyers certainly can't rely on confidentiality/privilege protections that lawyers can, and are therefore more likely to run afoul of the law, contrary to your post's suggestion that tax advisors do this all the time with impunity. There is no impunity. Some might not get caught, sure, but that doesn't change the fact that it's indisputably illegal, which was my one and only point.

    Now that you've made clear that you were talking about selective enforcement rather than illegality, of course confidentiality rules aren't relevant.

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