Rock Bottom: Russian Navy buys French warships.

[Serb]

Yes, the Russians never had any intention of invading South Ossetia/Georgia until Saakashvili forced them to. That's why the Russians had a military exercise practicing an invasion that ended a few days before the real invasion began.

You are really a hopeless idiot, Drake. Such military exercises are always a demonstration of force in the first place. It's a message to the f*ckers - you do something stupid - you'll regrate that. That's why it's always an open event and the main point of this is to demonstrate your readiness and to cool down a bit some hot heads in the f*cker's camp. They didn't get the message (probaly because right before that they had a military exercise with US Army in the region which was indeed a rehearsal of the invasion to South Osetia (so, they had a clear "go" signal from the US).
We knew they gonna do it. That was pretty obvious when they have started regular flights of their spy planes over South Osetian territory at May. That became even more obvious when they have drastically increased the number of provocations at SO borders and shootings there (which killed dozens of SO civilians). And that became CRYSTAL CLEAR that Sukashvili is going to war, when he began to build-up his forces near the border. We tried to point out the worldwide attention in the UN when Georgia has began spy planes flights over SO at spring - nobody listened. The military exercise was the last warning - the J erkgian military didn't get the message and still attacked.
Their bad.

[Drake Tungsten]

You may be a gullible fool, but it's obvious to anyone with a brain that the invasion of Georgia was premeditated aggression on the part of the Russians.

[Serb]

Yeah, right. It were Russians who launched a surprise attack against a sleeping Georgian capital and bombarded it with their heavy artillery and GRAD MRLS's and thus killed not only civilians but also some peacekeepers there.

Idiot.

[Drake Tungsten]

No, the Russians are the ones who had their South Ossetian proxies launch the assaults that led to the Georgian reprisals you just described. The Russians then used this pretext they created to launch their premeditated invasion of Georgia.

[Dinner]

At this point the Georgians probably should engage in a terrorist slash "national liberation" movement against the Russian protectorites. It really is the only way a small nation can stand up to a large imperialist power and it is clear Russia is acting like an imperialist power. Something like the Viet Cong which or the IRA which were kept at arms length by the VCP and Sein Fein but still convertly aid guerrilla factions to force the foreign imperialists out.

[Serb]

Says who? The guy who was among the many who have invaded an INDEPENDENT, SOVERIEGN and INTERNATIONALY recognized nation of Iraq to slaughter hundrends of thousands of its residents and to establish a puppet government there for getting a control over a large stokpile of the blood of the US economy - OIL.
Imperialist democrators, my ass.

[Serb]

No, the Russians are the ones who had their South Ossetian proxies launch the assaults that led to the Georgian reprisals you just described. The Russians then used this pretext they created to launch their premeditated invasion of Georgia.

You are really a moron, Drake. A hopeless moron.

THERE ARE NO EVIDENCES of "South Ossetian proxies launch the assaults (on Georgia)" despite there were a shiloads of EU monitors (who, btw, are saying exactly the opposite). There were clear facts that Jerkgians are killing SO civilinas at border clashes. There were clear facts that Sukashvili is goining to war when he deployed his Jerkgian forces near the SO border and ordered his spy planes to fly over SO.
You are living in a fantasy world created by your western brainwashing machine.

You are an idiot, really Drake. You are a hopless moron.
Anyone with a brain would understand who was the agressor in this war after understanding a simple fact that it was Georgian forces who attacked civilians and peacekeepers at night Aug 08. 2008 in Tskhinvali.

No Russian peacekeeper shoot his assult rifle at the dircetion of Gerogian territory. Jerkgians retaliated with GRADs against a sleeping CITY:

[Serb]

Drake, I know you are just a regularly brainwashed western idiot. So you won't change your mind (drumbed so hardly into your empty head).
But anyone with a brain should watch this documentary to understand the basics about this war:

[Patroklos]

I think it is funny that Serb keeps on saying "heavy artillery, GRADs, and MLRS" as if that is important in the slightest. They could have used trebuchets, it wouldn't matter. 122 civilians (as opposed to the thousands you claimed) were killed during an invasion, which by international standards is quite clean. By Russian standards it is damn near spotless.

You can use the attack as a rallying cry, but nobody here is at all impressed when you drop some irrelevant military hardware references.

It also doesn't matter that the city was "sleeping" AKA it was at night. Stop being a douche and just say it was at night. The fact that you resort to these ridiculously transparent attempts to dramatize the situation shows you lack confidence in the "facts" you present.

[Drake Tungsten]

I think it would be awesome if the U.S. equipped some Chechens to restart hostilities and then drove on Moscow at the first sign of a Russian response.

Unfortunately, nuclear weapons make it too dangerous to destroy Russia's otherwise laughable military.

[Serb]

I think it is funny that Serb keeps on saying "heavy artillery, GRADs, and MLRS" as if that is important in the slightest. They could have used trebuchets, it wouldn't matter. 122 civilians (as opposed to the thousands you claimed) were killed during an invasion, which by international standards is quite clean. By Russian standards it is damn near spotless.

You can use the attack as a rallying cry, but nobody here is at all impressed when you drop some irrelevant military hardware references.

It also doesn't matter that the city was "sleeping" AKA it was at night. Stop being a douche and just say it was at night. The fact that you resort to these ridiculously transparent attempts to dramatize the situation shows you lack confidence in the "facts" you present.

You find murdered civilians funny? All those dead women, children and elders amuses you?
That's not surprising really, since you are with US Navy and to slaughter civilians is a part of your everyday job.
And don't even start this bullsh!t about 122 dead civilians. They have bombarded the city (a heavily populated area) with artillery and MLRS (all unguided munitions) FOR HOURS (I mean the initial attack at night not no mention later bombardments). Only a moron can believe that would have resulted in only 100+ death among the residents of the city. F*ck, do you know what damage a SINGLE GRAD does?
122 dead bodies was what they have found in Tskhinvalli morgue. When your city is under constand artillery fire and when it is not - there are Georgian soldiers and tanks who shoot on sight every civilian (I have posted videos of that back then in 2008 if you remember), then the last thing you want to do is to deliver your murdered relatives to the local hospital (which was one of the prime targets for the Georgian artillery in the first place). That is the stupidest idea ever when the enemy took control of your city and they just shoot at every civilian car from their tanks and heavy machine guns.

Ossetians burried their dead in their backyards. And under that curcumstances it was the only possible solution, beacuse their city was under fire. One of you brainwashing medias posted this bullsh!t about 122 dead and it was copy/pasted further then.
Georgian had no precise munitions. And it is a proven fact that they have bombarded Tskhinvalli at night of Aug 08. 2008 (and the days after) with heavy artillery and GRADS.
IT IS A FACT, God damn it.
IT IS A FACT that Georgian forces attacked and killed Russian peacekeepers legaly stationed there.
IT IS A FACT that Russian peacekeepers were under attack by the regular Georgian troops with tanks (and therefore their lives were still in danger) when Russians crossed the border (send reinforcements to save their encircled peacekeepers).

I've asked you a simple question (leaving the number and citizenship of the dead civilians, though most of those civilians were Russian citizens and our consitution is very clear on that: the Russian president must use all the power he has to protect the lives of the Russian citizens no matter where they are now), so, back to my question -
How the United States of America would have reacted, if a battalion of American peacekeepers have been attacked with heavy artillery, GRADS, tanks, planes and overhelming number of troops? If dozens of them were already dead due to artillery/tank fire and bombardment and the rest were still under attack?
What whould you do? Let your soldiers die there?

We both know how US would have reacted after this obvios ACT OF WAR.
So, blaming Russia for retaliation to attack against its peacekeepers launched by the Georgian regular army is just ridiculous.

Nobody's allowed to slaughter our peacekeepers. Nobody forced Sukashvili to attack our peacekeepers. He did. He was the one who started this war. And it must be clear to anyone who know this basic fact.

[Drake Tungsten]

Nobody forced Sukashvili to attack our peacekeepers.

Your South Ossetian proxies did, moron. If your "peacekeepers" had actually been doing their job, Russia wouldn't have ended up in the war it wanted.

[Patroklos]

it's funny you talk about murder as a Russian. How does SO look compared to Grozny you ****ing barbarian?

[Hauldren Collider]

Says who? The guy who was among the many who have invaded an INDEPENDENT, SOVERIEGN and INTERNATIONALY recognized nation of Iraq to slaughter hundrends of thousands of its residents and to establish a puppet government there for getting a control over a large stokpile of the blood of the US economy - OIL.
Imperialist democrators, my ass.

1) Because nothing drives down oil prices like war. Also yes one of the United State's primary goals was to slaughter civilians, we're all so totally into that sort of thing. And with the largest GDP in the world what we decided the one thing we didn't have and really needed was a random rat hole in the middle of the desert.

2) Don't we all feel so incredibly sorry for toppling Saddam Hussein's sovereign government? I am personally wracked with guilt.

3) Histrionics do not a compelling argument make.

[Elok]

You have only to look at Josef Stalin to appreciate the Georgian's natural aptitude for treacherous villainy. It's in their blood, really.