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Originally posted by DinoDoc View PostStop being a whiny little b*tch. Your lackeys in the Rebel forces were the one's that baited the trap by attacking Georgia proper. Georgia fell into it. Good job there. Also being Russian, I wouldn't throw too many stones about an army slaughtering civilians. It only makes you look jealous.
Words, words, words and nothing but words.
Nobody ever confirmed that SO forces attacked Georgian territory. That was a Sukashvili claims that the wester media copy/pasted to approve his forces bombardment of the SO capital (and killing of the Russian peace keepers).
The facts are:
Georgian has begun a build-up of its forces near SO border at SPRING of 2008.
Georgia has start recon flights over SO at spring (and that was a clear indication of Sukashvili's further plans, a clear indication he is going to war). And Russia has warned everyone about his plans in the United Nations back than - you have just laughted and nobody really cared. And no, Georgians had no right to flight there no matter do they concider South Osetia a Georgian soverign territory or not - 'cause they have signed a peace treaty in 1992 theat clearly prohibites that flights (as well as precence of heavy weaponry near SO border).
Georgia has begun a bombardment of the SO capital at night with artillery, MRLS and tanks
(heavy weaponry they were not allowed to have near SO border according a peace treaty) - NOT OTHERWISE.
That was a well-planned attack on Tskhinvalli. A failed attempt to level-up the city and solve the "Osetian question" through force.
Sukashvili is just a little Hitler who oppressed its own people and killed/crushed Georgian opposition.
If he is an example of democracy for you, than you guys are real idiots and that says a lot about your own democracy (freedom of speech).
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Why exactly was there a Russian armored corps convieniently placed on the Georgian border Serb? Exactly."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
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Originally posted by Patroklos View PostWhy exactly was there a Russian armored corps convieniently placed on the Georgian border Serb? Exactly.Graffiti in a public toilet
Do not require skill or wit
Among the **** we all are poets
Among the poets we are ****.
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Originally posted by Patroklos View PostI was attempting to troll Serb, you have wondered into my trapI'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse View PostSlavocracy
Make the first syllable rhyme with "have" instead of "shave"
Poor Lonestar.I'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned
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Originally posted by dannubis View PostTell me, what is the differece between Georgias "democracy" and yours ?
And many more of course.
There have been some concerns about Saakashvili monopolizing power since his coming to office in 2004. Saakashvili has also occasionally used aggressive language, an example of which was reported by Amnesty International around the time of the President's inauguration. At a news briefing on 12 January, Saakashvili advised the then Justice Minister "to use force when dealing with any attempt to stage prison riots, and to open fire, shoot to kill and destroy any criminal who attempts to cause turmoil. We will not spare bullets against these people." Saakashvili in his inaugural speech stated that "now it is time for the government to be afraid of the people."[25]
In 2004 a new media law sparked controversy, with fourteen Georgian civil society leaders and Georgian experts writing an open letter to the President, published in several national newspapers, claiming "Intolerance towards people with different opinions is being planted in Georgian politics and in other spheres of social life".
On 27 March 2006 the government announced that it had prevented a nation-wide prison riot plotted by criminal kingpins. The police operation ended with the deaths of 7 inmates and at least 17 injuries. While the Parliamentary opposition has cast doubts over the official version and demanded an independent investigation, the ruling party has been able to vote down such initiatives.[26].
The conduct of the Sandro Girgvliani Murder Case has also raised eyebrows at home and abroad. Several senior Interior Ministry officials were alleged to have played active roles in the murder, yet despite a series of resignations and sackings, only four low-ranking individuals directly engaged in the case have been prosecuted. In addition to this, Georgian businessman Badri Patarkatsishvili has claimed that pressure has been exerted on his financial interests after Imedi Television broadcast several accusations against officials. On 25 October 2007, former defence minister Irakli Okruashvili accused the president of planning Patarkatsishvili's murder.[27].[28][29] Okruashvili was detained two days later on charges of extortion, money laundering, and abuse of office.[30] However, in a video taped confession released by the General Prosecutor's Office on 8 October 2007, in which Okruashvili pleaded guilty to large-scale bribery through extortion and negligence while serving as minister, he retracted his accusations against the president and said that he did so to gain some political benefit and that Badri Patarkatsishvili told him to do so.[31] Okruashvili's lawyer and other opposition leaders said his retraction had been made under duress.[32]
The BHHRG has frequently claimed that the new government immediately set out to settle scores with Shevardnadze era officials. Many former ministers, local administrators and businessmen associated with the former regime were arrested for abuse of office. Some Western organisations were concerned by the live broadcasting of these arrests and by President Saakashvili's occasional appearances on television to denounce the suspects, before any charges were laid.
On 30 June 2005 riot police and special military forces carrying machine guns violently dispersed hundreds of protesters blocking a major road in Tbilisi. It started as protest against the arrest of two well-known sportsmen accused in blackmail but soon grew into a demonstration against the central authorities. 25 people were arrested including 5 members of opposition parties.[33] In November 2007 another series of demonstrations forced Saakashvili to set the pre-scheduled presidential elections for 5 January, 2008.[17]
The late Georgian media tycoon Badri Patarkatsishvili's opposition television station Imedi, shut down after its premises were stormed during news coverage by riot police in November 2007, resumed broadcasts a few weeks following the incident, but "did not cover news or talk shows until after the election."[34] Subsequently the station was sold on to supporters of the Saakashvili government [35] and some Georgian journalists have called for the station to be handed back
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Originally posted by Patroklos View PostWhy exactly was there a Russian armored corps convieniently placed on the Georgian border Serb? Exactly.
The 58th Army is not an armored corps, moron.
And it's placed in Vladikavkaz, 'cause it's the center of Caucasus military district. It's the place where they should have been according to our military plans. And if you call Vladikavkaz a place just right near the Georgian border you should take a geography course again.
Our forces in the region (Caucasus) are the forces of high readiness, 'cause this whole region is one big poweder keg. Besides we had CLEAR and OBVIOUS signals (when he started to build-up his forces near SO border at spring 2008) that Sukashvili is going to invade South Ossetia (therefore our forces in the region were put even on higher alret than always - that's what any country would do in our place).
If for example a Mexican dictator started to bombard a sleeping city with heavy artillery and multiply rocket launch systems and a battalion of US peacekeepers have been attacked in this city by the overwhelming numbers of regular Mexican forces armed with heavy weapons which your peacekeepers simply don't have according to their status (and dozens of your peackeepers have been already killed by the bombardments) and survivors were still under sttack and therefore their lives, hundreds of lives of US soldiers, were still in danger, then HOW WOULD UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WOULD REACT?
They were slaughtering OUR peacekeepers. That was an act of war. They have started this and they have asked for this. So Sukashvilli's (Mr. "I eat my tie") forces have been f*cked completely. Cause slaughtering civilians is one thing and fighting a regular Russian army is another.Last edited by Serb; February 18, 2010, 17:21.
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