[Serious Thread] Assisted Suicide.

[Drake Tungsten]

The fact ... she's going through these exhausting legal procedures is a telltale indication that it's not a cry for attention, but rather the opposite of selfish, narcissistic and lacking in compassion.

She could've killed herself at home any number of times by now. Instead, she decided to stage a public fight in the courts so that her husband can accompany her to a high-profile clinic in another country to kill her. This is a transparent cry for publicity and attention.

Simply pulling the trigger and letting the heirs sort it all out afterwards actually sounds a lot more selfish than the accomplishments she has pulled off!

Wills are perfectly capable of resolving this issue, you moron.

[notyoueither]

The fact ... she's going through these exhausting legal procedures is a telltale indication that it's not a cry for attention, but rather the opposite of selfish, narcissistic and lacking in compassion.

She could've killed herself at home any number of times by now. Instead, she decided to stage a public fight in the courts so that her husband can accompany her to a high-profile clinic in another country to kill her. This is a transparent cry for publicity and attention.

Why should she have had to?

[notyoueither]

You may not realise this, Drake, but there is assisted suicide that goes on in hospitals on an (ir)regular basis. I mean it happens frequently, but it is not above board and any given patient cannot assume that sympathetic nurses and medical staff will facilitate a brief end to a tortured existence, like say by allowing patients to order their own dosage of morphine.

It is far better that this issue be out in the open. Abuses can then be brought to light, and noone need fear being left to endure in a useless shell of a body.

[Drake Tungsten]

Why should she have had to?

Because murder is wrong.

You may not realise this, Drake, but there is assisted suicide that goes on in hospitals on an (ir)regular basis.

I think the Canadian healthcare system has warped your sense of what goes on in the rest of the world.

[notyoueither]

Why should she have had to?

Because murder is wrong.

You may not realise this, Drake, but there is assisted suicide that goes on in hospitals on an (ir)regular basis.

I think the Canadian healthcare system has warped your sense of what goes on in the rest of the world.

I think you are naive, on both counts.

[Drake Tungsten]

You don't think murder is wrong?

[notyoueither]

I don't think that an adult who is facing certain conditions and who has assistance in ending their suffering at the point when life no longer has any positives has been murdered, no.

[Drake Tungsten]

On another note, the Wikipedia page makes Dignitas sound extremely sketchy. Seems like they're out to profit on human misery.

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Next: Assisted Suicide for Healthy People

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However, most compassionate individuals, once they embrace the legitimacy of assisted suicide under some circumstances, would have little difficulty permitting these brave souls to die together. But what if one partner had been dying while the other had been in the full bloom of health? This is no longer an abstract philosophical inquiry. For George and Betty Coumbias of Vancouver, it has become a pressing matter of life and love and death.

As reported in the media, George Coumbias suffers from debilitating and potentially-deadly cardiac disease. His wife, Betty, also in her early seventies, is in good health. However, according to human rights attorney Ludwig Minelli, the director of the Swiss suicide-assistance organization, Dignitas, Mrs. Coumbias wishes to die alongside her husband during simultaneous suicides. ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-m-appel/assisted-suicide-for-heal_b_236664.html

Dignitas

Canadians

[KrazyHorse]

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[Kuciwalker]

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[Traianvs]

Wills are perfectly capable of resolving this issue, you moron.

You really don't understand do you? Simply killing yourself just like that, without involving your relatives is -to me- the cheap way out.

[Drake Tungsten]

I'm being seriously serious, you guys.

Simply killing yourself just like that, without involving your relatives is -to me- the cheap way out.

You are one sick, selfish ****.

[notyoueither]

On another note, the Wikipedia page makes Dignitas sound extremely sketchy. Seems like they're out to profit on human misery.

edit:

Next: Assisted Suicide for Healthy People

...

However, most compassionate individuals, once they embrace the legitimacy of assisted suicide under some circumstances, would have little difficulty permitting these brave souls to die together. But what if one partner had been dying while the other had been in the full bloom of health? This is no longer an abstract philosophical inquiry. For George and Betty Coumbias of Vancouver, it has become a pressing matter of life and love and death.

As reported in the media, George Coumbias suffers from debilitating and potentially-deadly cardiac disease. His wife, Betty, also in her early seventies, is in good health. However, according to human rights attorney Ludwig Minelli, the director of the Swiss suicide-assistance organization, Dignitas, Mrs. Coumbias wishes to die alongside her husband during simultaneous suicides. ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-m-appel/assisted-suicide-for-heal_b_236664.html

Dignitas

Canadians

What do you want? Global warming is eliminating the ice floes.

[notyoueither]

Simply killing yourself just like that, without involving your relatives is -to me- the cheap way out.

You are one sick, selfish ****.

... says the guy who thinks other people should be forced to endure needless suffering to satisfy his own twisted morality.

[Drake Tungsten]

As a side note, only Europeans would have the gall to associate a glorified gas-chamber with "dignity."

says the guy who thinks other people should be forced to endure needless suffering to satisfy his own twisted morality.

Bull****. I've said several times that people should kill themselves if they want to. I have no problem with someone who has a terminal illness deciding to end it all; it's their decision. What I do have a problem with is attention whores who choose to involve their families, their country's legal system and sketchy Swiss crypto-Nazis in what should be a private moment between them and a gun/car exhaust pipe/toaster in bathtub.