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  • Baby Boomers look for new way to **** America

    Christ, just when you think the worst generation in history has done all it possibly can to hurt America...

    Boomers Going Bust

    People have accused the baby boomers of being whiners almost since we were born. But just wait until we get to retirement age and discover that we don't have nearly enough money to take care of our "golden years." That's going to be the ultimate generational bummer.

    I've been gathering some data about what I'll call, with the usual boomer understatement, the "retirement crisis." My mentors have been Eugene Ludwig, the head of the consulting firm Promontory Financial Group, and his colleague Michael Foot. The numbers show a genuinely frightening gap between what people have saved for retirement and what they will need. And many of these studies don't take into account last year's stock market crash, which will make the problem worse.

    Let's start with the basic fact that only about half of Americans have any employer-sponsored retirement plan at all. The other folks will have to depend on Social Security. For a typical boomer worker, that would mean a monthly benefit of about $2,400 at a retirement age of 66 in 2020. On that, you won't be able to afford many Starbucks lattes.
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    But let's assume that our average worker is one of the lucky ones with an employer-sponsored pension. Not so long ago, that usually would have meant a "defined benefit" pension at retirement. About 80 percent of employees in medium-size and large companies had such plans in 1985, according to the Labor Department. By 2000, defined-benefit recipients totaled just 36 percent.

    What's happened is that employees have taken on the investment and actuarial risks as their employers shifted to "defined contribution" formulas. Employers now contribute to 401(k) plans that are managed by the employees. Unfortunately, workers often don't do a good job as investors. They underestimate what they will need in retirement, and they underfund their 401(k) plans. And as for shifting out of stocks before the market tanks, well, let's just forget about that. . . .

    How bad are baby boomers at financial planning? Extremely bad, according to Annamaria Lusardi and Olivia Mitchell of the National Bureau of Economic Research. They found that more than one-quarter of boomer households thought "hardly at all" about retirement and that financial literacy among boomers was "alarmingly low." Half could not do a simple math calculation (divide $2 million by five) and fewer than 20 percent could calculate compound interest. The NBER researchers also found that, as of 2004, the typical boomer household was holding nearly half its wealth in the form of housing equity. Uh-oh.

    For a closer look at the retirement squeeze, consider a study released last month by the Congressional Research Service. Patrick Purcell analyzed the most recent data on consumer finances gathered by the Federal Reserve. He found that for the 53 percent of households that hold at least one retirement account, the median combined balance was a mere $45,000.

    Hold on, you say, that figure includes some younger workers who haven't started saving in earnest yet. Okay, for households headed by persons between the ages of 55 and 64, the median value of all retirement accounts was just $100,000. Purcell noted that for a 65-year-old man retiring last month, that $100,000 would buy an annuity that would pay a paltry $700 a month for life, based on current interest rates.

    And here's an extra bit of bad news: The Fed data used in Purcell's study were gathered in 2007. With stock market declines since then, the median account balances are probably even lower now.

    What's going to happen? Certainly, people will try to save more. But my guess, knowing my generational cohort, is that we'll want a government bailout to supplement our too-meager retirement savings. Unfortunately, the Treasury won't have enough money to fund our Medicare benefits, let alone a top-up in Social Security.

    A poll released in January by the National Institute on Retirement Security shows the anxiety about this issue. Because of the recession, 83 percent of those polled said they were worried about having a secure retirement; of those with a 401(k) account, only about half thought they would have enough money to retire. And 71 percent said it was harder to retire now than for previous generations.

    Are you whining yet? I am. As my pension mentor Foot says: "This is a time bomb that has been building for years. The recession has made it more acute. It has pricked the bubble of hope that high investment returns could get us out of the crisis."




    Seriously, let them starve. My taxes are going to be high enough already to pay off the reckless deficit spending of the last two Boomer presidents...
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    The Boomers already crushed my will to live long ago. Kill me instead.
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    Boomers
    Drake Tungsten
    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
    Stadtluft Macht Frei
    Killing it is the new killing it
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    • #3
      Shut up, you wop!






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      • #4
        Seriously, let them starve


        **** that; let them WORK.

        I see no reason I should fund laziness in my elders.
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
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        • #5
          My goal is to get as much out of the system as possible so you and the rest of your generation get nothing.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #6
            ****! It's ice floe! Loose **** on my part; I apologize.
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            • #7
              My goal is to get as much out of the system as possible so you and the rest of your generation get nothing.


              We know. We all understand how overwhelmingly selfish your generation is.
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              • #8
                Don't worry, your generation will do the same.
                And to pretend otherwise is silly.
                IF I hadn't had to pay into social security, I could have retired 5 years ago. I doubt I'll see a penny of it.
                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                • #9
                  Don't worry, your generation will do the same.




                  We can't do the same. Your generation piled so much ****ing debt on the country that we won't have the option of significant deficit spending.

                  I doubt I'll see a penny of it.




                  Jesus, you really are a generation of whiners. You're going to get your Social Security and then some. I'm the one who's going to get ****ed.
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                  • #10
                    You can't seriously count on Social Security for retirement.
                    Luckily our 401Ks have done well.
                    And indeed there will be time To wonder, "Do I dare?" and, "Do I dare?". t s eliot

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                    • #11
                      My only hope for a good retirement lies in the fact that the Boomer-induced economic collapse has pushed equity values so low that I should be able to make a solid return over the next three decades. I feel bad for all the early Gen Xers who just saw their 401ks wiped out...
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                      • #12
                        Did our generation create social security? No, we're the one that paid for a previous generation.

                        And I've prepared properly for retirement and won't be needing that bailout so, so don't include me in that group.



                        Since you are the one that started this thread, who's the bigger whiner?
                        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                        • #13
                          I'm not whining. This thread is a call to arms.
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                          • #14
                            I don't expect to ever retire.

                            If I can have kids, I will invest (emotionally) heavily in them and hope that they will help support me when I am failing but still capable.

                            JM
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                              I'm not whining. This thread is a call to arms.
                              Nice try, but your thread title is just one big whine.
                              ANd we know you've whined about this in the past, so don't deny it.
                              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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