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It's remote controlled. If/when they're talking about an autonomous robotic warplane, you can raise this argument.Originally posted by chequita guevara View Post
And Neo being a commie... yeah, ok. Is that what the creators of the Matrix said? Pretty funny if true. The only part that fits is the psuedo-religiousity of the whole thing.
-Arriangrog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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I'm pretty sure the terminators did win at the end of the third movie. But then they kept going...Originally posted by Q Classic View PostClick here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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The Matrix was a bastardized "upgrade" of gnosticism, with various other religious references tossed in helter-skelter. It does fit reality, though, insofar as Communism, like the city of Zion, is just a harmless sideshow suffered to exist by the powers-that-be so rebellious people can blow off steam. Every once in a while it gets too uppity and we squash it.Comment
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So what capability of the F-22 does this have again?"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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- Flies in the AIROriginally posted by Patroklos View Post
- Drops WEAPONS on to GROUND
- Fires WEAPONS at other AIRCRAFT
- A single UAV is far more useful than most Navy boats."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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You are smarter than this.- Flies in the AIR
You are smarter than this.- Drops WEAPONS on to GROUND
No, it does not.- Fires WEAPONS at other AIRCRAFT
You aren't smarter than this, but the rest of us are.- A single UAV is far more useful than most Navy boats.
So it is in fact nothing even remotely equivalent to an F-22. Moving on...
Avenger
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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You deny that UAVs can carry air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I'm not at all surprised to see the military men on this site lack of the vision and creativity of everyone else.
No disrespect intended, but if one is particularly good at cost/benefit analysis one would have determined it is a bad idea to join the military.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Anything interesting? What was the vibe?Originally posted by TCO View PostI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Just get rid of the healthcare budget and build both.Comment
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Are you claiming the Avenger carries air to air ordinance? Well, yes, that is exactly what you claimed and you are wrongYou deny that UAVs can carry air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons?
And I never once said that UAVs were not useful and will continue to become more so in the future.
There is no connection mentioned or alluded to in the article. Seeing as once is not capable of doing the roll of the other, I am not sure what causality conection you are making. If anything, this would be a replacement for the F-35, though that is a ridiculous idea as well.UAV funding goes up. F-22 funding goes down. This isn't a coincidence, I assure you."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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I'm claiming it is an airplane with payload. There's nothing that makes it impossible to carry air-to-air ordinance.Originally posted by Patroklos View PostAre you claiming the Avenger carries air to air ordinance? Well, yes, that is exactly what you claimed and you are wrong
I also know not all information is known about the Avenger, and if it is jet-powered I would be surprised if it was not given some kind of air-to-air defense.
This is seriously the major problem with military men. You can't ever think out of the box.There is no connection mentioned or alluded to in the article. Seeing as once is not capable of doing the roll of the other, I am not sure what causality conection you are making. If anything, this would be a replacement for the F-35, though that is a ridiculous idea as well.
Why should the military continue to put pilot's lives in danger when it is not necessary? Why should the military continue to spend MASSIVE amounts of money to make these planes "more survivable" (to protect the pilot's life) when they could instead build far more of a "more expendable" alternative?
Ultimately, the F-22 is an airplane with weapons. The Avenger is an airplane with weapons. The F-22 is ridiculously expensive and puts the pilot's life in danger, the Avenger does not.
If you can't see the connection here, then it just speaks volumes over the kind of decision-making that plagues the US Military and is precisely why it is so cost ineffective."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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So now that we have established that it indeed doesn't carry air to air ordinance, we can move on.I'm claiming it is an airplane with payload. There's nothing that makes it impossible to carry air-to-air ordinance.
Why do you make such a ridiculous assumption?I also know not all information is known about the Avenger, and if it is jet-powered I would be surprised if it was not given some kind of air-to-air defense.
The Avenger also doesn't do most of the things an F-22 can. Thats the fact I was pointing out, bash your head against that immovable object all you want, its not going to change for decades.The F-22 is ridiculously expensive and puts the pilot's life in danger, the Avenger does not.
Gottcha, lets go ahead and retire our F-22s for prop driven biplanesUltimately, the F-22 is an airplane with weapons. The Avenger is an airplane with weapons.
Ohhhh snap!This is seriously the major problem with military men. You can't ever think out of the box.
You are just full of warrantless assumptions today.Why should the military continue to put pilot's lives in danger when it is not necessary? Why should the military continue to spend MASSIVE amounts of money to make these planes "more survivable" (to protect the pilot's life) when they could instead build far more of a "more expendable" alternative?
I am trying to remember where I advocated that the F-22s replacement should be manned? You realize development of the F-22 is over, right?
UAVs are a technology with a lot of potential, and the Avenger is an evolutionary step ahead of its predecessors. It is not, however, a wholesale replacement for the F-22 or any other warplane in the current inventory. I fully expect that in 40 years when the last F-22 is retired from survice its replacement will be a drone (after having served along side such drones for years). You may have noticed that it is currently 2009 and not 2049.
I will repeat this for you one more time, the US is not currently devloping a manned air superiority fighter. It probably never will again. I am not sure if the difference between operational forces and developmental forces is known to you, but we currently have mission requirements that the F-22 fills and that the Avenger (or any other UAV) does not. Connect the ridiculously easy to comprehend dots.If you can't see the connection here, then it just speaks volumes over the kind of decision-making that plagues the US Military and is precisely why it is so cost ineffective.
This may be your worst performance in a thread in years Asher
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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