Reading frosty-boy's immigration thread....

[SlowwHand]

KH, the criteria you set (Those who were likely to get the highest-paying employment in the US would be willing to pay the most for the right to hold such a job. ) was who made it out during the evacuation of Saigon. The rest were boat people.

[KrazyHorse]

Sloww, my honest preference would be for every country to allow unrestricted immigration (of non-criminals). But if we (and by "we" I mean the First World in general) are going to restrict immigration I'd rather do it in as rational a way as possible.

[DanS]

Well, this is a pretty system. I wonder what the farmers in California would think of such a system.

[notyoueither]

Who is more valuable?

A: A nurse who is qualified and willing to work in tough areas, like peds or palliative care

B: Some blowhard with a PHD who knows how to cook bank books

I know who I want as a neighbour, and I know who would get in under KH's newly found, money grubbing philosophy.

[KrazyHorse]

A nurse who is qualified and willing to work in tough areas, like peds or palliative care

Some blowhard with a PHD who knows how to cook bank books

Snooze.

[KrazyHorse]

Well, this is a pretty system. I wonder what the farmers in California would think of such a system.

I don't know. Are you referring to farmers who rely on migrant workers?

Again, I'd rather let everybody in who's not obviously a drag on everybody else (via criminality, say). But the value to the US of a migrant agricultural worker is likely a lot lower than the value of one of the tens of thousands of Indian and Chinese engineers, programmers etc. turned away every year from the H1B visa system.

[KrazyHorse]

Who is more valuable?

A: A nurse who is qualified and willing to work in tough areas, like peds or palliative care

B: Some blowhard with a PHD who knows how to cook bank books

I know who I want as a neighbour, and I know who would get in under KH's newly found, money grubbing philosophy.

By the way, sweetheart, I can immigrate to virtually any country in the world. Under the current systems.

I would be an E-2 to the US (no backlog for this category) and a highly-skilled worker to Canada. My concern is for those who are not as uniquely qualified as myself.

[SlowwHand]

What slows it all down is the need to know the background of people. These days, all has changed.

[KrazyHorse]

For instance, NYE, if you wanted to immigrate to the US I doubt you would be able to.

Under MY system, if it was worth X to you (X likely in the ~50-100k range) you'd be free to do what you please.

Freedom.

[notyoueither]

A nurse who is qualified and willing to work in tough areas, like peds or palliative care

Some blowhard with a PHD who knows how to cook bank books

Snooze.

I guess you are unhappy that many people in many countries would prefer Mrs Tubes to you as an immigrant.

It must bite at your overblown sense of worth. Damn it! You're smarter than she is! Can't people see it?!

[KrazyHorse]

What slows it all down is the need to know the background of people.

I agree that there should be some significant scrutiny to weed out truly undesirable individuals. But that is NOT what eats up most of the resources for employment-based visas to the US.

[KrazyHorse]

I guess you are unhappy that many people in many countries would prefer Mrs Tubes to you as an immigrant

I have no idea what many people would prefer. I do know that bureaucratically speaking I'd have an easier time of it.

at the thought that it's easier for nurses to immigrate than PhD physicists.

[notyoueither]

By the way, sweetheart, I can immigrate to virtually any country in the world. Under the current systems.

I would be an E-2 to the US (no backlog for this category) and a highly-skilled worker to Canada. My concern is for those who are not as uniquely qualified as myself.

For instance, NYE, if you wanted to immigrate to the US I doubt you would be able to.

Under MY system, if it was worth X to you (X likely in the ~50-100k range) you'd be free to do what you please.

Freedom.

All that to say
You're Good Enough, You're Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You!

[KrazyHorse]

Want to try again, NYE? Both my wife and I can pretty much go anywhere we please.

I feel bad for those of you who can't.



By the way, I'm going to bed. I'll be happy to respond to whatever you come up with in the next 8 hours or so tomorrow morning. Good luck

For those of you who are capable of coherent thought, I'd be interested to hear your responses.

[notyoueither]

I have no idea what many people would prefer. I do know that bureaucratically speaking I'd have an easier time of it.

at the thought that it's easier for nurses to immigrate than PhD physicists.

I didn't say it was easier.

I said people would prefer, ie most normal people value Mrs Tubes and her work far more than they ever will you, most likely.

Face it Jack, a person who does not communicate very well in words is objectively a more valuable human being than you are. The world would be a poorer place without her than without you.