Trial begins in slaying of transgender woman

[DinoDoc]

Angie's gender, however, wasn't.

Justin was a male until the meth head killed him. That fact wasn't in dispute.

The murder victim.

You've yet to tell me why being accurate in language is in anyway disrespectful or failing that why refering to Justin as what he was qualifies as disrespect.

Unless nudity is a frequent and very common component of "outward appearance", then I don't know how useful this is?

I may have posted in haste. I was refering to morphology.

[Q Classic]

Justin was a male until the meth head killed him. That fact wasn't in dispute.

Sex and gender are not inextricably linked. Sex is a biological fact, gender is a societal construct.

I am not disputing that Angie's sex was male.

You've yet to tell me why being accurate in language is in anyway disrespectful or failing that why refering to Justin as what he was qualifies as disrespect.

Were I brutally murdered for who I was, would it not be disrespectful for people discussing it to refer to me as "straight" when I am not? Or "religious" when I am not? Or "Chinese" when I am not? Or "foreigner" when I am not?

[Kuciwalker]

Sex and gender are not inextricably linked. Sex is a biological fact, gender is a societal construct.

I am not disputing that Angie's sex was male.

You're the one trying to change what words means.

[Elok]

Finally:
I've never really encountered this, actually, so I'll have to disagree there.

...I hypothesize that your being gay has something to do with this. The whole lack of sexual attraction to any female would tend to keep sexual tension out of your friendships with females. At least on your side.

[Elok]

Were I brutally murdered for who I was, would it not be disrespectful for people discussing it to refer to me as "straight" when I am not? Or "religious" when I am not? Or "Chinese" when I am not? Or "foreigner" when I am not?

He. Was. A. Dude. Uncontestably so. If you want to split hairs and say gender and sex are totally different things, fine. I use "he" to refer to this person's sex, not his gender, because I don't care about self-image or societal mores or whatever where genitals are concerned. Argument resolved.

[Q Classic]

Sex and gender are not inextricably linked. Sex is a biological fact, gender is a societal construct.

I am not disputing that Angie's sex was male.

You're the one trying to change what words means.

Actually, no. The distinction between sex and gender is well established.

[Q Classic]

...I hypothesize that your being gay has something to do with this. The whole lack of sexual attraction to any female would tend to keep sexual tension out of your friendships with females. At least on your side.

It's possible. But I also don't have this issue with any male friends I have.

[Q Classic]

He. Was. A. Dude. Uncontestably so. If you want to split hairs and say gender and sex are totally different things, fine. I use "he" to refer to this person's sex, not his gender, because I don't care about self-image or societal mores or whatever where genitals are concerned. Argument resolved.

I suggested it was already resolved earlier, when it became clear that you wouldn't be changing your mind, and that this was a point we would disagree.

[Kuciwalker]

Actually, no. The distinction between sex and gender is well established.

Yes, but the idea that we should identify people by their gender instead of their sex is not.

[DinoDoc]

Were I brutally murdered for who I was, would it not be disrespectful for people discussing it to refer to me as "straight" when I am not? Or "religious" when I am not? Or "Chinese" when I am not? Or "foreigner" when I am not?

Justin wasn't a female.