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  • Eyes has something wrong with his brain, but he's harmless. Personally, I liked provoking him.
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    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    • I missed it. Who was asking for the moderators to act like "nazis"?
      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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      • Recap:

        MOD/ADMIN/STAFF: Do not want to be Nazi mods, dont appreciate Apolytoners attacking them and feel some mods in minor forums areas are weinies
        Originally posted by rah View Post
        I love it when people who don't normally post come to criticize and use it to justify why they don't normally post here. Hmmm, then why did they bother to post it.
        CFC's off topic puts me to sleep. It reminds of Disneyland where all you keep hearing is "it's a small world" until you want to smash your head into a brick wall to make it stop, despite whatever damage you might take.

        Modding like a NAZI is for lazy people. They don't want to think. Anything that might require thought, don't, just ban or delete, or close. (I can understand the concept) Yeah, we could be a tad more strict but it's no treat trying to keep up with all the threads. And you really have to get the feel for the entire thread before you make a decision about a single post. You can't take it out of context. It takes more effort than a lot of people realize. And yes we error on the side of being tolerant. SO sue me. And I will personally admit that sometimes it's tough to pull the ban trigger when you're LYAO. Some of the abuse is playful, some of it is provoked, and sometimes it's a contest that BOTH posters are playing. I don't see the need to ban under some of those circumstances. AND PEOPLE USUALLY BACK DOWN A TOUCH WHEN WE POST A CHILL WARNING. It's not always black or white. (unless you're a lazy nazi) Our way is harder on us also. We open the door to ctriticism. When you're a nazi, people don't bother complaining. That's not an problem here And we don't just take it from you guys, we have to take it from a few weeny on-topic mods that sometimes don't understand. (yes they make some good points but I do feel you have to be in the trenches being shot at before you can truely understand it)

        So heap on some more abuse. We're used to it.
        I dont necessarily agree with these assumptions, but accept that rah is most certainly entitled to his opinion I feel being a Moderator is about tolerance and moderation not about being a Nazi..and dont think rah meant all circumstances are handled this way


        OFF-TOPIC POSTERS appear to want to have some leeway, be able to engage targets of opportunity without being shot by a tower guard..a.k.a. Nazi. Some however feel a few get away with too much. Some feel a personal stalking takes place when certain posters follow them from one thread to another


        ON TOPIC POSTERS would like to see expanded game coverage, some tourneys, more MODS being displayed, to name a few items


        Most everyone here is in agreement with the site improving, better than it was but needing some other improvements


        My point has been met.

        I see, based upon views posted, we will continue as is.

        Thanks for all who took time to post here, and those in charge may leave open or close, Im cool with how you good folks choose to proceed


        Again

        Thanks for the participation

        Brother Bruce
        Hi, I'm RAH and I'm a Benaholic.-rah

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        • Wait, now let me get more confused.
          Some say that there is too much moderation and some say there is too little moderation? WTF?

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          • Originally posted by Docfeelgood View Post
            Wait, now let me get more confused.
            Some say that there is too much moderation and some say there is too little moderation? WTF?
            Love your Avatar Docfeelgood
            Hi, I'm RAH and I'm a Benaholic.-rah

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            • Originally posted by Wezil View Post
              I missed it. Who was asking for the moderators to act like "nazis"?
              Apparently there's a lot of people -- mostly on-topicers we wouldn't even know -- who think that it's the way to go.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • Originally posted by Docfeelgood View Post
                Wait, now let me get more confused.
                Some say that there is too much moderation and some say there is too little moderation? WTF?
                That's how it always is. Fact is, if people want a more CFC-like experience they're welcome to **** off to CFC. Poly needs to find its own niche.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • Originally posted by Grandpa Troll View Post
                  Love your Avatar Docfeelgood
                  TY.
                  I'm trying to do my part to show a more friendly Apolyton to newbies.

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                  • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                    That's how it always is. Fact is, if people want a more CFC-like experience they're welcome to **** off to CFC. Poly needs to find its own niche.
                    Yes

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                    • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                      That's how it always is. Fact is, if people want a more CFC-like experience they're welcome to **** off to CFC. Poly needs to find its own niche.
                      Hey, if you want your forum to continue dwindling down in popularity to a mere tight-nit group of 20-30 members or so, that's fine with me. The problem is that the niche for former-civ-players-who-want-to-insult-to-each-other is small, you're not obtaining new members, and people will leave or switch to CFC.
                      "Compromises are not always good things. If one guy wants to drill a five-inch hole in the bottom of your life boat, and the other person doesn't, a compromise of a two-inch hole is still stupid." - chegitz guevara
                      "Bill3000: The United Demesos? Boy, I was young and stupid back then.
                      Jasonian22: Bill, you are STILL young and stupid."

                      "is it normal to imaginne dartrh vader and myself in a tjhreee way with some hot chick? i'ts always been my fantasy" - Dis

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                      • Originally posted by Bill3000 View Post
                        Hey, if you want your forum to continue dwindling down in popularity to a mere tight-nit group of 20-30 members or so, that's fine with me. The problem is that the niche for former-civ-players-who-want-to-insult-to-each-other is small, you're not obtaining new members, and people will leave or switch to CFC.
                        Most of us don't insult eachother. The people who are worthy of insult tend to leave.

                        Quality over quantity. AOL has more members than CFC, but you wouldn't catch me in an AOL Chatroom or a CFC chatroom...

                        CFC's off-topic is formal, impersonal, and mind-numbingly boring. It's not my thing. Just because it's your thing doesn't mean that's how it should be.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • Right, so once this place goes belly up we need to decide where to meet up. That's how to save what matters most to me, and I assume you, about Poly...the OT community.
                          Long time member @ Apolyton
                          Civilization player since the dawn of time

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                          • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            CFC's off-topic is formal, impersonal, and mind-numbingly boring. It's not my thing. Just because it's your thing doesn't mean that's how it should be.
                            What on earth gave you the idea that CFC's OT is formal and impersonal? It's neither. There are certainly some formal threads (which, like Ask a Theologian, are incredibly interesting) but there's quite a lot of informality, inside jokes and the like just like any other forum. Impersonal? Yeah, we're not allowed to make personal threads, but that certainly dosn't mean that we don't care for each other. There's groups of people within the forum who are pretty tight-nit. Yes, there's more than one group. #fiftychat alone (a chatroom for CFC OTers) has around 20-30 people, and we care for each other a lot. CFC has generated a hierarchy of peoples, well known posters, friends and meetups just like Apolyton has.

                            And sure, it's not your thing, but do you want a successfully run forum or not? You need rules such as a basic level of respect for the moderators, no personal attacks (which I see plenty of time here), and no spam in order to attract people to post on the forum other than a tight-nit group of people.
                            "Compromises are not always good things. If one guy wants to drill a five-inch hole in the bottom of your life boat, and the other person doesn't, a compromise of a two-inch hole is still stupid." - chegitz guevara
                            "Bill3000: The United Demesos? Boy, I was young and stupid back then.
                            Jasonian22: Bill, you are STILL young and stupid."

                            "is it normal to imaginne dartrh vader and myself in a tjhreee way with some hot chick? i'ts always been my fantasy" - Dis

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                            • I'm curious how people would feel if Apolyton went Web 2.0?
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                              • Originally posted by Bill3000 View Post
                                What on earth gave you the idea that CFC's OT is formal and impersonal? It's neither.
                                I've been there, I just looked again now. It lacks a sense of true community.

                                Impersonal? Yeah, we're not allowed to make personal threads, but that certainly dosn't mean that we don't care for each other.
                                "We're not allowed" -- are you all children? Is there a bedtime as well?

                                And sure, it's not your thing, but do you want a successfully run forum or not?
                                I'm happy with the way the OTF is. The changes you would make would ruin it. The OTF on Poly is vibrant and active. The problem with Poly is the on-topic side is virtually dead.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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