Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

General purpose thread where Kitty advises posters on whatever they ask

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Hmm. So in this context, .55 + .55 = .8? How does that work? Does it have to do with the way time slows down as objects approach C?
    1011 1100
    Pyrebound--a free online serial fantasy novel

    Comment


    • Slightly more than .5c + slightly more than .5c = slightly more than .8c.

      And sort of. The basic idea behind special relativity is that the laws of physics are the same in every inertial reference system. Shift everything by a uniform velocity, and nothing changes (if I crash my car, my wind shield shatters whether you're inside or outside of it). In classical mechanics, you can relate two reference frames with a certain kind of transformation of the coordinate system called the Galilean transformations.

      Einstein applied this principle of relativity to the equations which describe electromagnetism, and arrived at the conclusion that the speed of light in a vacuum is the same in every inertial reference frame. So if I'm moving at a different speed from you, and a light flash goes off, we see the light travel at the same speed.

      Work you a little bit of algebra, and you can figure out a different (Lorentz) transformation between our coordinate systems, which affects spatial and temporal coordinates. This is where you get time dilation, BTW. Take time derivatives of these transformations, and you get expressions for how velocities transform.

      Incidentally, the velocity addition law (for oppositely directed velocities u and v) is (u + v)/(1 + uv/c^2).
      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
      -Bokonon

      Comment


      • Originally posted by Elok View Post
        Inane physics question: if two objects collide while each traveling at a little over half the speed of light, they have a combined velocity greater than C, right? It's like an object traveling faster than light ran into a stationary object. Might there be any trippy side effect to "bending the rules" that way? Aside from the massive flash of light when the two objects crashed together at that speed, I mean, which would be pretty cool in itself. I'm thinking of Cherenkov radiation here (stumbled across its Wiki page a while ago).
        No. In fact, the lorentz transformations allow you to derive a velocity transformation equation. This velocity transformation equation has the necessary property that given any two objects A and B each traveling at velocity less than c in some given frame of reference the velocity of B as viewed from somebody standing on A is less than c.

        For your example we have that the velocity of one with respect to the other is

        (c/2 + c/2)/(1 + (c/2)*(c/2)/c^2) = c/(5/4) = 4c/5 < c
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

        Comment


        • Yes, I know Ramo answered but this is my thread.
          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
          Stadtluft Macht Frei
          Killing it is the new killing it
          Ultima Ratio Regum

          Comment


          • The interesting case appears, with that velocity transformation equation, when you transform the velocity of an object traveling at c. In that case, all observers see the transformed velocity of the object as c as well.

            The difference between the "Galilean transforms" where velocities simply add and the true Lorentz transforms was first directly observed in the Fresnel-Fizeau experiment of 1850, which I recreated as a lab project when I was 19. My partner and I were able to exclude galilean velocity transforms to 3 standard deviations and measure the speed of light to within 3% (under the correct lorentz theoretical framework) using equipment built for less than 2000$ and sitting on a tabletop. It is still one of the most elegant tests of special relativity.
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

            Comment


            • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
              I did 3-5 days for each of my written exams (one each on Stat Mech, Classical, Quantum and EM), a week for my oral exam and 2-3 weeks preparing my presentation and studying for my thesis proposal.
              Great particular example. (Serious.)

              Would you generalize it as advice? (per the question?)

              Comment


              • I would generalize with the caveat that I am talking about solid 12-14 hour days in each of those cases. And an efficient learner at the wheel.
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                Killing it is the new killing it
                Ultima Ratio Regum

                Comment


                • So, is there any way to "cheat" the speed-of-light limit in a vacuum? I'm guessing "no."
                  1011 1100
                  Pyrebound--a free online serial fantasy novel

                  Comment


                  • Not really.
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

                    Comment


                    • Physics, breaking maths since 194...ugh, thanks Einstein.

                      KH, how long should it take me to learn to drive? I started to learn 3 years ago, and was starting to get OK at it, looking towards my test, but then I stopped learning when went to teh US for 5 weeks and then returned and left for uni. I'll have a care to learn to drive in over the summer from early July, but would it be possibly to have passed both the written and practical tests by the beginning of September?
                      You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

                      Comment


                      • When using neodymium magnets, about how much "pressure" from like poles being positioned towards each other would be necessary in order for one of them to realign?
                        I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                        I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

                        Comment


                        • Originally posted by Theben View Post
                          When using neodymium magnets, about how much "pressure" from like poles being positioned towards each other would be necessary in order for one of them to realign?
                          Insufficient information given.
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

                          Comment


                          • Originally posted by Krill View Post
                            Physics, breaking maths since 194...ugh, thanks Einstein.

                            KH, how long should it take me to learn to drive? I started to learn 3 years ago, and was starting to get OK at it, looking towards my test, but then I stopped learning when went to teh US for 5 weeks and then returned and left for uni. I'll have a care to learn to drive in over the summer from early July, but would it be possibly to have passed both the written and practical tests by the beginning of September?
                            I passed my actual driving exam after ~25 hours practice. As long as there are no bureaucratic delays or minimum waiting times that should be plenty of time, as long as you get hold of somebody with a car who's willing to let you drive it.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

                            Comment


                            • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                              Insufficient information given.
                              Okay, FE 2 100g magnets are set (+-)(-+) 1cm apart. Will the field generated be strong enough to force one of them to realign, and if so how quickly?

                              Hopefully that's all you needed. Assume no other forces are acting on them.
                              I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                              I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

                              Comment


                              • From a couple of quick calcs, no. Even though Nd magnets have low Curie point they have high BH. At room temp. you'd need the field of one magnet at the other to get you to ~BH/2 before the new "Curie temp under applied field" (not sure what this would be called) would flip the magnet. That stills seems too high.
                                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                                Killing it is the new killing it
                                Ultima Ratio Regum

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X