Lost Season Five

[flash9286]

It isn't in Ben's nature to kill Penny.

Not when she is more useful to him alive then dead.

[Guynemer]

I see what you're saying, flash, but Ben has himself admitted that he sometimes doesn't think rationally. He said as much when confessing to Hurley about trying to murder Locke.

The execution of Alex would definitely be something he wouldn't be thinking rationally about.

[Guynemer]

Now, I think he was thinking very rationally when killing Locke. One of two reasons--either suicide is a big no-no for the Island, or (my preference) Ben got some information out of Locke that made him expendible--either that he needed to see Hawking, or Jin was alive.


I think Sun is the woman who took a boat with Frank, and Sayid is around there somewhere with the Ajira people as well. Kate, Jack, and Hurley are stuck in the past--they are also the members of the O6 who had off-island visitiations by spirits. This means something.

[rah]

Last nights episode was dissapointing. Yes it was nice to see how John died, but besides that it was a slow and tedious episode. The type that turned people away from it. We need more content.

[Japher]

I agree rah.

I have taken to watching the 8pm with the pop-ups from last week, to get a jog of the brain. One thing that bugs me is that I think the writters expect us to read too much into the show. They may recall that in season 1 this was said and that is critical, but how am I to know that? Like Ben going after Penny, how was I to draw that connection? They also put to much emphasis on stupid little things, I just wish the show was more "aha" enjoyable which I thought they were trying to be.

[rah]

Yes, it's a real art to create a show that will satisfy the small majority of junkies while still being enjoyable to that masses. I fall someone in between. I like some of the obscure twists, but counting the balloons at Hurleys party is a bit too obscure for me.

I hope last night's episode was the exception because I've really enjoyed this season so far.

[Felch]

I liked last night's episode. But I like John Locke, and I like The Wire, so seeing Locke with Matthew was cool. I was hoping that the conversations Locke had with the O6 would have been a bit more invigorating. Still a damn sight better than those season 2, early season 3 eps. We got filled in on what happened to Locke, and it looks like things are set up well for the next several episodes.

It seems as though Locke and the others wound up on the island with the Hydra station. Are they in the modern time frame, or do you think that the D.I. has already abandoned the station at this point in the Jack et al timeline? I'm guessing that Locke and his people are in the present, and separated by decades from the others.

[Guynemer]

Yeah, they're separated by at least 20 years or so.

I liked last night; I liked that the conversations were low-key. They needed to be; Locke needed to be shot down again and again. He needed to have his faith questioned, ridiculed, dismissed. I think that was the point of the episode.

[Krill]

I like last nights episode on the whole; not a great one, but it served a purpose as Guy says, and it also leaves more episodes for cool stuff to happen; I think it would have sucked to have Johns' adventure spread out over a couple of weeks.

[Guynemer]

Dead

Here is a list of dead characters. Just for ****s and giggles.

Main Cast

Charlie Pace--killed (drowned) by Mikhail Bakunin
Michael Dawson--killed (explosion) by Martin Keamy & Benjamin Linus
Mr. Eko--killed by the smoke monster
Ana Lucia Cortez--killed (shot) by Michael Dawson
Libby (last name unknown)--killed (shot) by Michael Dawson
Shannon Rutherford--killed (shot) by Ana Lucia Cortez
Boone Carlyle--died of massive internal injuries/hypovolemia
Charlotte Staples Lewis--died of time-travel sickness
Nikki Fernandez--killed (buried alive mistakenly) by James "Sawyer" Ford and Hugo "Hurley" Reyes
Paulo (last name unknown)--killed (buried alive mistakenly) by James "Sawyer" Ford and Hugo "Hurley" Reyes

**John Locke--killed (strangled) by Benjamin Linus, now apparently resurrected**

**Claire Littleton--unknown, possibly dead, alive, mostly dead, walking dead, etc.**


Significant supporting characters in no particular order

Danielle Rousseau--killed (shot) by Martin Keamy & his mercenaries
Alex Linus--killed (shot) by Martin Keamy
Ethan Rom--killed (shot) by Charlie Pace
Goodwin Stanhope--killed (speared) by Ana Lucia Cortez
Tom Friendly--killed (shot) by James "Sawyer" Ford
Mikhail Bakunin--killed (intentionally exploded) himself
Karl (last name unknown)--killed (shot) by Martin Keamy & his mercenaries
Martin Keamy--killed (stabbed) by Benjamin Linus
Naomi Dorrit--killed (stabbed) by John Locke
Captain Gault--killed (shot) by Martin Keamy
Dr. Ray (last name unknown)--killed (throat slit) by Martin Keamy
George Minkowski--died of time-travel sickness
Dr. Leslie Arzt--killed (accidentally exploded) himself
Marshal Edward Mars--died of peritonitis/sepsis & botched mercy shooting by James "Sawyer" Ford
Captain Seth Norris--killed by the smoke monster
Nathan (last name unknown)--killed (neck broken) by Goodwin Stanhope
Kelvin Inman--killed (skull fractured) by Desmond Hume
Roger Linus--killed (poison gassed) by Benjamin Linus
Horace Goodspeed--killed (poison gassed) by the Hostiles/Others
Dr. Pierre Chang--killed (poison gassed) by the Hostiles/Others (presumably)
Danny Pickett--killed (shot) by Dr. Juliet Burke
Colleen Pickett--killed (shot) by Sun-Hwa Kwon
Bea Klugh--killed (shot) by Mikhail Bakunin
Ryan Pryce--killed (run over) by Hugo "Hurley" Reyes
Anthony Cooper--killed (strangled) by James "Sawyer" Ford
Noor "Nadia" Abed Jazeem--killed by person(s) unknown
Yemi (last name unknown)--killed (shot) by Nigerian military
Jae Lee--killed (defenestrated) himself
Helen Norwood--died of brain aneurysm
Matthew Abaddon--killed (shot) by Benjamin Linus
Numerous other various and assorted named and unnamed 815ers, Others, freighter crew, etc. etc.

**Christian Shepherd--died of alcohol poisoning/myocardial infarction, now zombie/ghost/island avatar**




And the lesson--being involved with island means your chances of an unnatural demise go up. A lot.

[Krill]

When did Mikhail die? Killing Charlie? Are we sure he's dead?

[Guynemer]

Well, he was holding a live hand grenade in his hand, several meters underwater, without any scuba equipment or other breathing apparatus.

So, yeah, I'm calling him dead.


EDIT: apparently, he was confirmed dead by Carlton & Cuse on the third season Blu-Ray.

[Krill]

Damn, I liked him

[Guynemer]

Not to mention that he was holding onto an exploding grenade, underwater, etc. etc., AFTER taking a spear to the chest.

I liked him too, but that was a pretty bad-ass way to go out.

[Krill]

Yeah, that has to be the most "Bad-ass" way anyone has died on the show so far...though locks was the most twisted...