Lost Season Five

[rah]

Yeah, and his father is also the kids father. I think all of that is a result of the writers not knowing the ending and just making extra connections in case they're needed. I suspect they'll let that one whither on the vine, but I could be wrong. Now I might buy getting claire there to get the baby there, and back I guess, but we'll see.

[-Jrabbit]

Yeah, and his father is also the kids father. I think all of that is a result of the writers not knowing the ending and just making extra connections in case they're needed. I suspect they'll let that one whither on the vine, but I could be wrong. Now I might buy getting claire there to get the baby there, and back I guess, but we'll see.

I disagree. Once they knew there would be a clear ending after this year, I think the plotting and connections got finalized and tightened up considerably. I get a clear sense of purpose now, and I think they're trying to avoid muddying things up with dead-ends and culs-de-sac. (Lord knows they've got enough of those as albatrosses around the show's neck already.)

[rah]

Agreed, but wondering when that connection was actually written, before or after that point. Having claire seperated from the group still tends to support after.

[flash9286]

Two final observations:

Something else that was just too conspicuous, not from last night, but last week--the thorn in Sawyer's toe. I mean... why? Why show that so intensely? Will he develop an infection requiring amputation? Is Sawyer the basis for the four-toed statue?

Locke unable to shoot Widmore as he escapes--Locke says it is because he's one of his people, but we know that it is because the past can't be changed.

The thorn was in Sawyer's big toe, the statue has a big toe.

A thing that bothered me was that when Locke talked to Richard it affected the "present timeline", what I mean is it presumably caused Richard to go visit John and present him with the compass and other things. But when Daniel Faraday talked to Desmond when they were time jumping it didn't affect the "present timeline" because Desmond would have recognized Daniel but he didn't. Is this because Desmond is special or Richard?

[Felch]

Nothing stops Locke from affecting the time-line. He's not able to change it though. Since Richard already came to visit him in the regular time-line, it's all legit.

In contrast, note that he couldn't kill Widmore.

[Guynemer]

That was pretty kick ass.

We'll get Rousseau backstory after all!

[Felch]

That French connection I liked a lot. I think this season is using a great method to answer so many questions about the island's history.

Jin surviving annoyed me, partly because that was a pretty huge explosion, and partly because a friend of mine bet me that he wasn't dead.

I think it would be tight to see a Lost themed Civ (maybe Col?) scenario that really took advantage of all that sort of history and phenomena to set the mood. Set up a camp and explore a mysterious island with all this crazy **** going on. I wouldn't want to see an attempt to recreate Lost, but something with that sense of adventure would be sweet. FFH II is probably the closest thing I can think of right now, and I think I just got inspired to start a game up.

[rah]

Jin had to survive or Sun wouldn't have any reason to go back to the Island.

[flash9286]

Nothing stops Locke from affecting the time-line. He's not able to change it though. Since Richard already came to visit him in the regular time-line, it's all legit.

In contrast, note that he couldn't kill Widmore.

What I was saying was that time jumping John presumably made Richard go to see him being born. So John did affect his "present timeline" by his time-jumping. But when Daniel saw Desmond at the hatch when Daniel was time jumping it did not affect the "present timeline". I guess you could say that it was already determined that Richard would go see John born so John really didn't change anything.

[Felch]

Yeah flash, but Locke already talked to Richard. He didn't change anything, he merely fulfilled what had already happened.

[DaShi]

Timey wimy, weebly wobbly!

[flash9286]

Yeah flash, but Locke already talked to Richard. He didn't change anything, he merely fulfilled what had already happened.

But it happened because time jumping Locke caused it to happen, presumably.

[Felch]

Time jumping can affect things that happened in the past, but unless you already did change events in the past you can't change them on the trips. That's why Sawyer couldn't jump out and say anything to Kate. Basically the only thing that can't be changed in time travel is the stuff that's been established in previous episodes.

[flash9286]

Time jumping can affect things that happened in the past, but unless you already did change events in the past you can't change them on the trips. That's why Sawyer couldn't jump out and say anything to Kate. Basically the only thing that can't be changed in time travel is the stuff that's been established in previous episodes.

Yes. And my point is why are somethings affecting the present timeline and some are not. It seems inconsistent.

[Japher]

Desmond may exist on an alternate timeline than Locke. His consciousness is apparently different than other peoples since he turned the key on the fail safe in the hatch, temporarily sending him back to 1996 and giving him clairvoyant abilities. That, or it may he may have just forgotton due to being alone for so long.