Can China survive depression and deglobalisation?

[DaShi]

Originally posted by GePap


The OP question was about whether the current Chinese political system could survive. Yes, the change from Mao to Deng ment a 180 degree change in policy, but the fact of single party authoritarian rule did not change.

And the basic question is, what constituency would form the "supporters of the new guard." Mao had his rural masses. Deng the party elite. Suring an economic meltdown, who would support what alternative in China? Care to actually give an idea, or just make comments that add nothing?

Pathetic. I don't even need to go any farther with you.

[Darius871]

Isn't he just a darling?

[Blaupanzer]

The OP question, specifically, is would China survive. That answer is yes. The survival of the specific political system is incidental.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Darius871
Isn't he just a darling?

Yeah, its pretty sad.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Oerdin
The good news for China is they've barely begun to stimulate domestic demand and they have huge currency reserves. They could easily power growth with domestic demand if they wanted too.

I read that this is something of a myth. The Chinese save because their welfare state is so minimal. Buying stuff now means less money in old age, or no university for the kids.

[One_more_turn]

China now has a excess of production capacity, which is easy to fix under an authoritarian state and a fiat money system.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by GePap


Yeah, its pretty sad.

Please, you both give me amateurish responses. All Darius can do is insult with childish remarks. I've seen nothing intelligent come out of him. Now he's taken to following me with one line insults. That's what is sad. I've called him bitter before and stand by it.

Gepap, I responded to your comments, not the OP (which you got wrong, btw). You were the one to turn the discussion to the collapse of the CCP in your narrowmindedness. Now you're just trying to cover up your humilation.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by DaShi


Please, you both give me amateurish responses. All Darius can do is insult with childish remarks. I've seen nothing intelligent come out of him. Now he's taken to following me with one line insults. That's what is sad. I've called him bitter before and stand by it.

I'm merely returning the favor. Note that I'm not as much of a dick to anybody else, for a reason.

And the only reason it's especially "sad" is that I've lurked here long enough to vaguely remember when you were a fairly positive and enjoyable poster with some useful contributions, before suddenly becoming an insufferable curmudgeon spouting nothing but abrasive bitterness toward almost everyone for the past year or two, with your unprovoked ad-hominem snapping at GePap's totally reasonable point of view being but one of several illustrations. What happened, did some little filly break your heart?

[DaShi]

Get over it.

[Darius871]

No, I'm bound to lose sleep over it. How can I go through life without the DaShi we once knew and loved?

[GePap]

Originally posted by DaShi


Please, you both give me amateurish responses. All Darius can do is insult with childish remarks. I've seen nothing intelligent come out of him. Now he's taken to following me with one line insults. That's what is sad. I've called him bitter before and stand by it.

Gepap, I responded to your comments, not the OP (which you got wrong, btw). You were the one to turn the discussion to the collapse of the CCP in your narrowmindedness. Now you're just trying to cover up your humilation.

How exactly did I get the OP "wrong"?

The question "can China survive" is incredibly vague AT BEST. The OP lays out a scenerio of economic collapse and regression - so what then are we supposed to speculate about? That the country of China will collapse and fracture? For that to happen, the current government would have to fall, and last time I checked the CCP is the current government. Or perhaps that China will actually vanish, and that 1.3 Billion people and that 9.6 Million km2 will simply disppear into thin air- hey, how imaginative! No, lets be more sober. 1.3 Billion people will just drop dead and that land area will become lifeless...Maybe he meant that those 1.3 Billion Chinese will magically convert into non-Chinese people, thus China vanishes that way......

Stop being an *******. If you don't feel like giving ideas, at least try to be a funny troll, not a disagreeable one.

[RGBVideo]

Re: Can China survive depression and deglobalisation?

Asher has a good point: China is far more self-sufficient than India.

Originally posted by aneeshm
Can China survive depression and deglobalisation?

do you understand what globalisation means?

[DaShi]

Originally posted by GePap
How exactly did I get the OP "wrong"?

Originally posted by aneeshm
So the question, then, becomes: Can China survive a depression coupled with a simultaneous deglobalisation? And if it cannot, what effects does this have on the rest of us?

Originally posted by GePap
The CCP has been in power for 50 years, including during worst times. Why would an economic decline guarantee their collapse? What is the current political alternative?

Originally posted by DaShi
That's a truly naive answer. Prior to those worse times were even worse times that created the CCP as a political alternative.

Moron.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by GePap


How exactly did I get the OP "wrong"?

The question "can China survive" is incredibly vague AT BEST. The OP lays out a scenerio of economic collapse and regression - so what then are we supposed to speculate about? That the country of China will collapse and fracture? For that to happen, the current government would have to fall, and last time I checked the CCP is the current government. Or perhaps that China will actually vanish, and that 1.3 Billion people and that 9.6 Million km2 will simply disppear into thin air- hey, how imaginative! No, lets be more sober. 1.3 Billion people will just drop dead and that land area will become lifeless...Maybe he meant that those 1.3 Billion Chinese will magically convert into non-Chinese people, thus China vanishes that way......

Stop being an *******. If you don't feel like giving ideas, at least try to be a funny troll, not a disagreeable one.

Oh and learn to read. I've answered all your questions, until you got all whiny. Sorry, that it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

[RGBVideo]

He's not a moron. He's just been programmed to believe that Communism is vital for the survival of Chinese nation-state. Part of his education.