Legolas: the nerfing of the Fellowship

[Victor Galis]

Originally posted by Elok


Eh, they've got Aragorn for that.

Yeah, but redundancy never hurts given the high probability that members of the Fellowship will be killed\incapacitated.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Elok


EDIT: Re Bombadil, we will never know WTF he was meant to be. That's probably the single most contested question among Tolkien spazzes, er, scholars. He doesn't appear to be of any of the Children of Illuvatar, and I'm not inclined to believe the theory that he's an incarnation of Illuvatar himself (yes, that's been propounded). He could be an extremely powerful or unique Maia, but I imagine he's something entirely unique. Anyway, he wouldn't join the Fellowship so it's moot.

I think the type of his existence is similar to Ungoliant.

JM

[Jon Miller]

You guys missed the key point. The Elder weren't really part of Middle Earth, and deffinitely wouldn't be after the Ring was destroyed. Excluding Gandalf, everyone was there to represent the peoples who would be on Middle Earth after the Ring was destoyed.

JM

[Dinner]

Where is the nerd slut picture?! Damn you, mods!

[Guynemer]

Um... you posted it?

[Impaler[WrG]]

I always though Bombadil was some character that Tolkien had bouncing around in his head and crammed into The Fellowship because he just liked it a lot. It just feels so out of place and disconnected from the rest of the story line which is so incredibly interwoven and interdependent.

[Naked Gents Rut]

Bombadil is Aule.

http://www.cas.unt.edu/~hargrove/bombadil.html

[Dinner]

Oh, the slut picture is back. It must have been a problem with imageshack.

[Arrian]

Elok,

First, well done. This is about a 9.0 on the nerdometer.

Second... good point. I don't see why Elrond couldn't have spared Glorfindel or some other Noldor lord. The only thing I can come up with is that a high elf lord would know things that the Wise wouldn't want the enemy to find out (via torture if captured), such as the locations/bearers of the elven rings. That doesn't really fly, b/c Gandalf is actually bearing one of the three and knows where the others are.

As for Bombadil... I figured he's one of the Maiar who decided to hang out in Middle Earth. Sort of like Melian, but instead of getting directly involved in events like she did, he just stays in his (ever-shrinking) wood. [edit: actually, I first figured he was a form of Eru himself.]

-Arrian

edit: according to Drake's link, Glorfindel *is* Glorfindel... reincarnated. Huh.

[Elok]

Yeah, I was aware of the lore re:Glorfindel, but it's not part of the official canon so I didn't bring it up. It was sort of retconned in by Tolkien after he realized he'd used the same name twice.

NGR, I read the first couple of sentences of that before getting bored. TL;PT;DR.

[Arrian]

It's, um, actually pretty well-argued.

-Arrian

[Lefty Scaevola]

Legolas (Silvan-Sindarin fusion culture) is far more representative of the remaing Elven population in Western MIddle earth than the handful of Noldor left in Rivendale.

[Elok]

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
Legolas (Silvan-Sindarin fusion culture) is far more representative of the remaing Elven population in Western MIddle earth than the handful of Noldor left in Rivendale.

Actually, he's pure Silvan/Nandor AFAIK. Are you sure you're not confusing the elves of Mirkwood with the original Sindar under Thingol?

If it comes to that though, humans are more representative of the remaining population of ME, so why include anyone but men?

[Felch]

Originally posted by Elok
If it comes to that though, humans are more representative of the remaining population of ME, so why include anyone but men?

Affirmative Action

[Blaupanzer]

Originally posted by Elok
If it comes to that though, humans are more representative of the remaining population of ME, so why include anyone but men?

This would eliminate all manner of smart remarks about men and each other that make up the banter of the party until they split up. Also, if the story is to be all about men, much of the fantasy element is lost.