French Language Help please

[Dry]

First person might be more suited for a speach indeed.
Then we need to find the right translation for paper...

[Victor Galis]

This is my latest version, taking into account comments so far:

Au cours des dernières décennies, le concept des rendements d'échelle croissants révolutionna les sciences économiques. Ce document s’intéressera plus particulièrement à ses implications pour la croissance économique, le commerce international, et la géographie économique. Ce genre de survol historique fut réalisé auparavant (Peon 2003), mais ce document apportera des réflexions supplémentaires. Il commencera par examiner l’histoire de la théorie néoclassique de la croissance, rendements d’échelle croissants, et de la théorie du commerce international. Ensuite il passera à une revue de la littérature moderne concernent les interactions entre ces trois points. Ce document examinera enfin comment l’étude des rendements d’échelle croissants a transformé la nouvelle théorie du commerce international, la nouvelle théorie de la croissance, et la nouvelle géographie économique.

edit: I think it's a lot better than what I started with.

[Dry]

This dictionary http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/paper translate an academic paper by article, but a paper seems more something you publish.
un mémoire (masc.) is the most correct word for a term paper... if it is in use in Quebec, of course.

http://www.wordreference.com/fren/memoire

[Dry]

Originally posted by Victor Galis
This is my latest version, taking into account comments so far:

Au cours des dernières décennies, le concept des rendements d'échelle croissants révolutionna les sciences économiques. Ce document s’intéressera plus particulièrement à ses implications pour la croissance économique, le commerce international, et la géographie économique. Ce genre de survol historique fut réalisé auparavant (Peon 2003), mais ce document apportera des réflexions supplémentaires. Il commencera par examiner l’histoire de la théorie néoclassique de la croissance, des rendements d’échelle croissants, et de la théorie du commerce international. Ensuite il passera à une revue de la littérature moderne traitant des/concernant les interactions entre ces trois points. Ce document examinera enfin comment l’étude des rendements d’échelle croissants a transformé la nouvelle théorie du commerce international, la nouvelle théorie de la croissance, et la nouvelle géographie économique.

edit: I think it's a lot better than what I started with.

[Victor Galis]

Maybe I should ask my professor what the best term is for the paper itself. I suspect at least one of them will speak better French than me.

[Traianvs]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: French Language Help please

Originally posted by CrONoS

The same thing, never use first and second person.

Everyone learns this, but I have read countless articles, books and so on that do not adhere to this rule. Researchers with a 'name' in particular talk about 'us' when they talk about humanity for example, and sometimes about the feats they did themselves

Why not. I know it's their experience, and that it's biased. Who cares.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I have no idea if what Asher is saying is true.

What I do know is that application of Quebec's ridiculous language laws is hopelessly non-uniform and random.

Yes.

Apparently something like 90% of the actionable complaints the Office de la langue francaise receives every year come from a very small handful of individuals (like a half-dozen or so).

The general idea makes sense, but I would be surprised if a handful of people filed several hundred complaints.

Most of the language laws (apart from some exceptions like the English education restrictions and highly visible things like the sign laws) are mainly symbolic, because their wholesale application would cause severe hardship to businesses who deal with the rest of North America.

There are provisions stating that dealing with other offices outside of Quebec is exempt.

So while many of you may have experience in businesses which flaunt the workplace French laws, there can be notable exceptions where the tongue troopers crack down.

I'm still highly skeptical of Asher's claim.

A possibility is that someone at Ubisoft wanted a French keyboard, the company refused to provide him with one, and then complained. It's not mandatory to use French peripherals and software (the OQLF 'suggests' that companies do so), but you have to comply if an employee requests it.

[Asher]

Why don't you man up and link to the law rather than pretending like you know what it is.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Asher
Tell the the Americans about your sign laws...and your demands for private small businesses to have French websites even if they provide English-only services.

http://www.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/english/infoguides/faqs/faqs_anglais.html

Aware of the fact that the Internet is now used by companies as a means of advertising products on the global market, which products are often destined only for exportation, the Office québécois de la langue française will apply a simple rule : a French version must be provided only in the case of advertisements posted on the Web site of a company located in Québec for products available in Québec.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I guess they had their real intended effect, though. They're one of the reasons I'm never moving back to Quebec.

-1 maudit anglais

Sounds like a crap reason to leave, considering they're likely not to have affected you, ever.

Cry me a river about Quebec oppressing you 'maudit bloke' into a $3k/year English college education at McGill*.

*wild assumption - though the broad point would remain, even if the case didn't apply to you.

[Asher]

Quebec is always so generous with the RoC's money.

[Fake Boris]

I don't recall McGill not being subsidized when Alberta was 'have-not'.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris


The general idea makes sense, but I would be surprised if a handful of people filed several hundred complaints.

I'm not. You're seriously surprised that there are a few *******s with nothing better to do?

There are provisions stating that dealing with other offices outside of Quebec is exempt.

Given that almost every business in QC has to deal with people from outside the province at least occasionally, you're going to have to explain yourself further.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris


Sounds like a crap reason to leave, considering they're likely not to have affected you, ever.

First off, dude, my father actually received 2 letters of complaint from the OLF about 15 years ago. Not to mention the glorious hassle of my parents having to get documents from their high schools to prove that we should be allowed to receive education in English

Secondly, it has much much less to do with direct effects than simply not feeling welcome IN MY OWN PROVINCE. Whiny QC separatists want to leave Canada despite French Canadians in QC not being under any legal disabilities at all (and exercising inordinate political influence). You think it's ridiculous for me to not want to stay in a province where even the people elected from mainly English areas support the language laws discriminating against their constituents? Why the **** do you think English people in Quebec are continuing to leave?

http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/lo-ol/pubs/census2001/7_e.cfm

Table 5.13 Interprovincial Migration Between Quebec and Other Provinces and Territories by Mother Tongue, 1971–1976, 1976–1981, 1981–1986, 1986–1991, 1991–1996 and 1996–2001
Period Total English French Other

Net migration (arrivals minus departures)
1971–76 1 -62,000 -52,200 -4,100 -5,700
1976–81 -141,700 -106,300 -18,000 -17,400
1981–86 -63,200 -41,600 -12,900 -8,700
1986–91 -25,500 -22,200 5,200 -8,600
1991-96 -37,400 -24,500 1,200 -14,100
1996-01 -57,300 -29,200 -8,900 -19,100
Total -387,100 -276,000 -37,500 -73,600

**** Quebec, and **** the language laws. They're not why I left in the first place, but they are why I'm not going back.

And I suppose now that my wife's with me, that's actually -2 maudits anglais

[KrazyHorse]

Cry me a river about Quebec oppressing you 'maudit bloke' into a $3k/year English college education at McGill

Given that my parents were busy paying much more than their share to QC at the ridiculous tax rates charged to its residents I don't really look on a McGill education as being a gift to me.



Not to mention the fact that most of my classmates were French Canadian. None of them wanted to be trapped in QC either, I suppose.

So I guess QC's doing almost as good a job getting rid of its highly intelligent francophones as it is of getting rid of anglophones.