Mother Russia - A terrorist ??

[Pekka]

The adventures in Chechnya are pretty well documented and it's partially very nasty. War crimes, sure.

But the West is walking on weak ice these days. It is difficult for us to point the finger and say you can't do that, when we're looking for legal ways to do the same thing. I mean when crap happens, we say the system will take care of the rotten individuals. We know it isnt' true always, only sometimes.

So I don't know, I don't think we can get a moral high ground here anymore. It all sucks pretty much.

[Guardian]

Originally posted by onodera

Yes, if you're in the military and you're acting under orders, you're not doing anything wrong. The right thing is to obey.

So, if you were in the Russian military and your superiors ordered you to gas Moscow, you would obey your orders, no questions asked?

[Wezil]

Originally posted by onodera

Yes, if you're in the military and you're acting under orders, you're not doing anything wrong. The right thing is to obey.

...and that would make someone a war criminal.

"I was just following orders" is not a defence to this (as was pointed out).

[Patroklos]

Yes, if you're in the military and you're acting under orders, you're not doing anything wrong. The right thing is to obey.

Seriously?

[Wezil]

They may do things differently in Russia.

[Arrian]

That's a blatant Godwin trap.

-Arrian

[Wezil]

Because it is the best example.

[onodera]

Holy ****, Darius, that's a lot of text filled with question marks in black diamonds. I'll read it tomorrow.

Originally posted by Guardian
So, if you were in the Russian military and your superiors ordered you to gas Moscow, you would obey your orders, no questions asked?

There's nothing wrong with asking questions. It is permitted. If you don't like the order you may lodge a formal complaint with your superior's superior. After carrying out the order, of course.

[Wezil]

I don't want to be your lawyer.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Arrian
That's a blatant Godwin trap.

-Arrian

Right?

You were just baiting us, right?

-Arrian

[Wezil]

Nah, the thread was already Godwinized by Guardian (Post #3).

[Darius871]

Originally posted by onodera
Holy ****, Darius, that's a lot of text filled with question marks in black diamonds.

Do you mean my post or what it linked to? Both are working ok in IE and Opera for me.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Wezil
Nah, the thread was already Godwinized by Guardian (Post #3).

Ah, so it was.

Excellent. Then I can mention the Einstatzgruppen. Just following orders. OBEY

-Arrian

[Patroklos]

Andre told me to do it

[BeBMan]

Lies!