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[MrFun]

But in Two Towers, Gandorf was also saved by one of the giant eagles. Why didn't that deus ex machina ruin that film for you, TEF?


EDIT: Never mind - I think Gandorf's rescue from the top of the tower was in the first movie.

[Patroklos]

okay

Just my opinion, I am no authority on the matter!

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Because it wasn't the culmination of the entire story.

[MrFun]

Patty, when I saw the LOTR films, I saw how the ring indeed did possess double characteristics - obsessing the bearer even at same time that the ring is meant to find its way back to Sauron.

But what I thought you were saying was that if the ring had no control over Gollum because he didn't fall under Sauron's control then that also meant Gollum had control over the ring. But you were not saying that at all - my mistake.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Because it wasn't the culmination of the entire story.

I thought it was awesome how Gandorf and the eagles came to rescue Frodo and Sam. Call me crazy if you want.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
That's totally untrue, Monk. Gollum was over-whelmed by the ring, as a for instance.

Yes, he was overwhemed by the ring, but he never fell under Sauron's control; if he had, the ring would have been back with Sauron.

[Provost Harrison]

*yawn*

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Ramo just said he was not under the control of Sauron because of it, which is true. He actively resisted Sauron when possible to get the ring himself.

In any case, Gandalf on one eagle (he most certainly could have convinced them to go, what price wouldn't the elves/man pay to defeat Sauron) and Frodo on another. Gandalf wastes whatever Nazgul show up (he is most certainly capable of this) and they drop the ring in.

How many of the Nazgul did Gandalf "waste"?

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
*yawn*

Go open the coffeeshop, you need some.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Ramo just said he was not under the control of Sauron because of it, which is true. He actively resisted Sauron when possible to get the ring himself.

In any case, Gandalf on one eagle (he most certainly could have convinced them to go, what price wouldn't the elves/man pay to defeat Sauron) and Frodo on another. Gandalf wastes whatever Nazgul show up (he is most certainly capable of this) and they drop the ring in.

For that matter, what price could they pay that would interest a giant eagle?

[MrFun]

GAH! How the **** did I confuse Ramo with Mad Monk?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
I never read the books. When the eagles came and rescued Sam and Elijah Wood, seemingly out of nowhere, the whole deus ex machina of it totally ruined the film for me. That and the Wizard of Oz love-a-thon at the end.

Two Towers - the only one I enjoyed

Really, that's what did it for you, not that fact that the hobbits were only a few feet from 5,000 degree rock and weren't roasted?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles


Really, that's what did it for you, not that fact that the hobbits were only a few feet from 5,000 degree rock and weren't roasted?

It's called fiction - are you really narrowly strict on what requires for you to suspend belief in order to enjoy a story or film?

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by MrFun
GAH! How the **** did I confuse Ramo with Mad Monk?

I do not know, but I think I have been insulted.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk


I do not know, but I think I have been insulted.

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