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Since this thread's more on-topic I'll paste from the other one:
Originally posted by Darius871
Speaking of irony, today Rush Limpdick (I listened in the car strictly for schadenfreude, swear to god) rose the interesting point that the day's great civil rights victory (election of the first black president) ironically also contributed to a great civil rights defeat (passage of several major ballot measures hostile to gays), because according to exit polling, minorities (whose hugely increased turnout was a big factor in Obama's victory) had a far more anti-gay voting tendency on other parts of the ballot than whites did. I found that a little amusing.
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California's black and Latino voters, who turned out in droves for Barack Obama, provided key support for a state ban on same-sex marriage. ...
Exit poll data showed seven in 10 black voters and more than half of Latino voters backed the ballot initiative, while whites and Asians were split.
Though blacks and Latinos combined make up less than one-third of California's electorate, their opposition to same-sex marriage appeared to tip the balance. Both groups decisively backed Obama regardless of their position on the initiative.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...n111547S31.DTL
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Originally posted by Asher
It is possible for gay men to force themselves to marry women and have children.
These men end up with massive mental problems and are genuinely unhappy. Look at all of the republican closet cases that've been coming out...Graffiti in a public toilet
Do not require skill or wit
Among the **** we all are poets
Among the poets we are ****.
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Amusing?
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Proposition 8 won because of a variety of factors, and blaming minorities for it won't really help.
A few months ago, polls showed it losing by a wide margin--17 points or so. Opponents got complacent and donations to fighting it dried up as the presidential election sucked all the air out of the room.
Then the LDS dropped massive money into the pro-8 campaign, funding an incredibly sleazy ad campaign that specifically targeted minority areas with misinformation, including the claim that not passing 8 would allow homosexuals to teach school children about gay sex and that Obama was actually in favor of 8, which he was not.
It wasn't until polling was conducted relatively recently showing Prop 8 winning that opponents woke up and by then it was just too damn late.
If there's a silver lining, it's that this decision likely won't last long. You can guarantee that if legal challenges don't kill it, the whole mess will be back on the ballot in the next election.Tutto nel mondo è burla
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This dose not matter. Within 15 years the pro-gay people will have an unstoppable edge in voters. They will then use the Federal Goverment to get what they want.
Winning by out-voting the other side does not show if you are right or wrong. The pro-gay side will say that winning shows they are right-- this is not true.“...This means GCA won 7 battles against our units, had Horsemen retreat from 2 battles against NMs, and lost 0 battles.” --Jon Shafer 1st ISDG
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
If there's a silver lining, it's that this decision likely won't last long. You can guarantee that if legal challenges don't kill it, the whole mess will be back on the ballot in the next election.
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