Obama up 8 points

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Vel has been stupid enough to suggest the deregulation = McCain when history suggests otherwise and that the man isn't opposed to regulation he feels is needed to protect taxpayers.

"I don’t think anyone who wants to increase the burden of government regulation and higher taxes has any real understanding of economics and the economy and what is needed in order to ensure the future of this country.”

"This legislation takes a small but important step toward eliminating the tremendous regulatory burden imposed on financial institutions… One principal reason banks are unable to make loans is the bewildering array of statutory and regulatory restrictions and paperwork requirements imposed by Congress and the regulatory agencies. While a case can certainly be made that every law and regulation is intended to serve a laudable purpose, the aggregate effect of the rapidly increasing regulatory burden imposed on banks is to cause them to devote substantial time, energy and money to compliance rather than meeting the credit needs of the community"

“I'm always for less regulation.”

"I am fundamentally a deregulator"

- McCain

[Boris Godunov]

Again, this shouldn't be a shock to anyone. McCain is a consummate panderer who'll say whatever he thinks will help him to whomever is listening. It's a consistent pattern, from this to his statement in the primary debates that he'd vote against his own bill.

[Asher]

Panderers suck.

Vote for me and I'll put an end to pandering.

[Naked Gents Rut]

Out of curiosity, is anyone willing to admit that perhaps government inspired loosenig of lending standards combined with loose oversight of complex derivatives combined to create this crisis, and that BOTH parties share some culpability.

Both parties obviously should share the blame for the financial crisis; it developed under both Republican and Democratic presidents and Republican and Democratic Congresses. The problem right now is that the Democrats aren't sharing in the blame. Savvy people know all about the Democratic protection of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but the average idgit voter believes the vague bull**** about "Republican deregulation" being solely to blame. That's why a first-term Democratic Senator with no history of pushing for reform in the financial sector is getting all the political benefit out of this crisis while the experienced Republican Senator who has been pushing for more regulation of the financial sector for years is getting hammered. Life isn't fair, but this turn of events is particularly egregious.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Asher
Panderers suck.

Vote for me and I'll put an end to pandering.

Wait a minute! Aren't you a Canadian?! I hate it when foreigners take our jobs.

[Kidlicious]

Liberals are clean though.

[Kidlicious]

Has anyone seen this ad?

We’ve seen what Bush-McCain policies have done to our economy. Now John McCain wants to do the same to our health care. McCain just published an article praising Wall Street deregulation. Said he’d reduce oversight of the health insurance industry, too. Just "as we have done over the last decade in banking." Increasing costs and threatening coverage. "A prescription for disaster." John McCain, a risk we just can’t afford to take.

[Aeson]

Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut
Both parties obviously should share the blame for the financial crisis; it developed under both Republican and Democratic presidents and Republican and Democratic Congresses.

True.

The problem right now is that the Democrats and Republicans aren't sharing in the blame.

Fixed.

[Kirnwaffen]

Life isn't fair, but this turn of events is particularly egregious.

...because it's negatively affecting the party you support.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Has anyone seen this ad?

We’ve seen what Bush-McCain policies have done to our economy. Now John McCain wants to do the same to our health care. McCain just published an article praising Wall Street deregulation. Said he’d reduce oversight of the health insurance industry, too. Just "as we have done over the last decade in banking." Increasing costs and threatening coverage. "A prescription for disaster." John McCain, a risk we just can’t afford to take.

I haven't seen it. I have heard of it. CNN calls the ad misleading because, although McCain has proposed some deregulation of the health care industry, it is far less deregulation than has occurred in the banking industries.

[Kidlicious]

I thought everyone knew that Obama was a liar already.

[Guynemer]

And a secret Muslim, don't forget that.

[Velociryx]

Dude...the sign said "Muslin"

-=Vel=-

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Zkribbler


I haven't seen it. I have heard of it. CNN calls the ad misleading because, although McCain has proposed some deregulation of the health care industry, it is far less deregulation than has occurred in the banking industries.

I don't think the degree of deregulation is important. Another issue is that McCain said that befor the bailout issue. However, McCain hasn't really said how he would regulate the banking industry yet, or even if he definitely would.

Anyway, I like the ad, since I already viewed Obama as less than perfectly honest. It's a good attack, and it's probably effective.

[Aeson]

Given Congress' views on what proper "oversight" and "regulation" are... as per teh bailouts billz... I wouldn't put much weight in any such claims in the future.

(I mean... Paulson is in charge of setting up the whole thing... and sits on the "oversight" board to oversee his actions... this is how we do it!)