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  • " Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition to the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, the so-called "bailout" for the financial industry. I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with me on this issue. I value your views on the important issues facing our Commonwealth and the Nation.

    The past several days have been historic ones for Congress and for the families and people of this great nation. We face significant challenges in our financial markets and I do not underestimate the serious nature of the decisions we face in dealing with the credit crisis. I realize that the current credit crisis could create problems for every American should the financial markets freeze and remain frozen. Throughout this debate it has been clear that action is necessary but the recovery bill considered in the House of Representatives today should not have been the only option.

    In reviewing the plan and doing some deep soul searching I believe that it had significant problems. First is the government purchase and ownership of troubled private assets on a massive scale. The impact of this action would be a fundamental change in the role of government in the American free enterprise system. The obligations to offset Wall Street losses would have been placed on future generations. To authorize the Paulson plan would be to lessen the consequences of risky behavior and could lead to riskier behavior in the future. Furthermore it did not go far enough in holding accountable those at fault for the current crisis by failing to establish penalties for their past bad business practices.

    There are free market mechanisms that should have been and still can be implemented to help ease the current crisis. While the recovery bill would have allowed community banks to write off losses on their holdings of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac stock, it did not provide backing to assist banks in raising private capital. By providing incentives for private capital, the government could help troubled banks offset losses that keep them from lending while limiting government intervention and taxpayer risk.

    I also have serious concerns with government overseeing the purchase and sale of these troubled private assets. I feared that the purchase and sale of the assets would not have been executed in the most efficient way possible under this proposal and taxpayers could lose. The potential existed for the government to pay too much and sell for too little.

    In addition I had considerable reservations about increasing the national debt by 6.6% to $11.3 trillion dollars to finance the bailout. This equates to an additional $3,000 of debt for every man, woman and child in the U.S. on top of the $34,000 already owed by each American toward the national debt. We cannot continue to borrow and spend at this rate and expect a healthy future for our country.

    In my deliberations, I sought to make a decision in the best interest of the taxpayers. Over the past week I've had calls, emails, letters and visits from over 2000 constituents of the First District with an overwhelming majority voicing opposition to this recovery plan. Many of you expressed a need for Congress to act, but felt that this plan was not the right course of action. With that in mind I have offered that Congress should not adjourn and should stay in Washington to get the right plan for economic recovery.

    My two main priorities for any plan are to most wisely protect you as a taxpayer and to protect the value of your retirement, your home and your savings. There is no doubt that this crisis and resulting legislation would have had significant impact on our future. However, I believe that the proposed plan for recovery had substantial and avoidable flaws. The plan that was before us put $700 billion in taxpayer funding on the line to bail out Wall Street financial firms, would fundamentally alter free market decision making, let bad actors off the hook and create a massive new bureaucracy with no guarantee of success. For these reasons I could not vote in favor of this plan. The House of Representatives failed to pass H.R. 3997, the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, today by a vote of 205-228."

    ^ the email I received today (sent to all who had contacted him)

    JM
    Jon Miller-
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    • JM -- who are "him?"

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      • Originally posted by Zkribbler


        When you're trying to get someone to buy into your plan, you don't kick them in the nuts. It's poor salesmanship.
        I just find is that Lancer would claim that the republicans are that stupid and petty.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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        • Originally posted by Kidicious


          I just find is that Lancer would claim that the republicans are that stupid and petty.
          See my post # 105.

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          • @ Kid

            Zkrib, you always manage to get a post in there.
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            • Originally posted by Zkribbler
              JM -- who are "him?"
              Robert J. Wittman
              Member of Congress

              JM
              Jon Miller-
              I AM.CANADIAN
              GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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              • btw, big for the Grand ol' Party!
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • Originally posted by Zkribbler


                  I don't know. Her giving a highly partisan speech right before the vote could have change perceptions to seeing this as a Democratic-plan.

                  To a Repug facing a tough re-election, who is thinking about bucking the will of his constiuants and voting for this very unpopular bill, her speech could have been the straw that broke the camel's back.
                  Sorry, but Barney Franks was right on the money by making fun of this excuse right after the Republicans gave it - to decide to change your vote on a plan that you think is necessary to save the country from a financial meltdown because someone said things you didn;t like is asenine and moronic. I loved how he said that he was willing to go and say really nice thing to Republican house members, to see if that changed their minds. I mean, which is a bigger hit to Bush, Pelosi's speech, or House Republicans turning their back on a deal the President has been championinng for close to two weeks (after giving a nationalized speech about it and a 7:30AM speech today urging passage)

                  Accepting petulance as a reason to change your vote is absurd in my view. To me this is a patently transparent attempt for the Republican House leadership to blame Democrats for their failure to garner enough of their own people to support the plan. They aren't man enough to admit that too many House Republicans simply had deep ideological revulsion towards this plan and that their fears of losing their reelection was too great.
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                  • In reviewing the plan and doing some deep soul searching I believe that it had significant problems. First is the government purchase and ownership of troubled private assets on a massive scale. The impact of this action would be a fundamental change in the role of government in the American free enterprise system. The obligations to offset Wall Street losses would have been placed on future generations. To authorize the Paulson plan would be to lessen the consequences of risky behavior and could lead to riskier behavior in the future. Furthermore it did not go far enough in holding accountable those at fault for the current crisis by failing to establish penalties for their past bad business practices.




                    and good that it did not go though... Pelosi or not... perhaps she inadvertently did us all a huge favour
                    Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
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                    • Originally posted by Aeson


                      Just as long as the $ doesn't suddenly crater in relation to the Philippine Peso
                      yesterday it was 46.something. Today its 47.35. that said, they have 12% inflation right now so...

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                      • Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave

                        and good that it did not go though... Pelosi or not... perhaps she inadvertently did us all a huge favour
                        Make no mistake. This was a lousy, wretched bill. The only thing it had going for it is that it's better than the alternative.

                        We are now about to find out what the alternative is.

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                        • Considered in today's dollars that 700 bn is 14X the cost of the manhattan project.
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                          • I never thought I would give a to the house republicans, but

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                            • Also Democrats boooooo!
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                              • My roommate is watching the news. It is being painted as we need to do this or our alternative is nothing at all.

                                Basically the whole issue is that this is a lousy thing to do, there are very better responses. I am, personally, not in favor of doing nothing at all.

                                I think that people are trying to sell the US citizens **** saying it is gold.

                                JM
                                Jon Miller-
                                I AM.CANADIAN
                                GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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