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  • What to do about Somalia?

    A modern Barbary Coast, should we nuke them? If not, what to do?

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080927/...somalia_piracy;_ylt=AhW6lHq8KfZi4SNcyaMvgV1m.3QA

    Somali pirates demand $35 million ransom for ship
    1 hour, 9 minutes ago


    NAIROBI (Reuters) - Somali pirates demanded a $35 million ransom on Saturday for a Ukrainian ship they seized carrying 33 tanks and other military supplies to Kenya, a maritime official said.

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    "The gunmen are demanding $35 million to release the MV Faina and her crew," said Andrew Mwangura of the Mombasa-based East African Seafarers' Assistance Programme.

    Kenya's military said they had not made contact with the Somali pirates holding the ship, local media reported.

    The 21 crew members aboard the ship include 17 Ukrainians, Russians and Latvians.

    Mwangura said a Greek ship, Genious, flying a Liberian flag, was hijacked in the same area on Friday with 19 Romanian crew on board. He had no further details.

    He said pirates had released a Malaysian chemical tanker, Bunga Melati 5, on Saturday after a $2 million ransom was paid.

    "The ransom was delivered by Malaysian navy who were in the area," he said. A Japanese ship was released late on Friday.

    Pirates have captured more than 30 vessels off Somalia this year, making its waters the most dangerous in the world and threatening a globally important shipping lane between Europe and Asia. The gangs seek, and often receive, large ransoms.

    The Ukrainian ship, sailing under a Belize flag, is carrying 33 T-72 tanks as well as grenade launchers and ammunition bound for Kenya.

    The haul is a significant seizure in Somalia, where Islamist insurgents have been fighting the government and its Ethiopian military ally for nearly two years.

    Kenyan media reported that the pirates had warned against any rescue attempts. Kenya's government said it would not negotiate with pirates.

    "We will endeavor to recover the hijacked ship and military cargo," a government statement said.

    Russia's navy said it had sent a warship to Somalia's Indian Ocean coast to conduct anti-piracy patrols in the area.
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    Nuke them.
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    Bomb them with conventional weapons
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    Do nothing, just hope everything will be ok.
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    Civilization player since the dawn of time

  • #2
    I say nuke the site from orbit. Only way to be sure.
    Unbelievable!

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    • #3
      Equip each ship passing through this area with the modern equivalent of cannon loaded with grapeshot, camouflaged and computer targeted. When the pirates get close enough to the ship "BOOM" their little speed boat gets peppered with enough 1" balls to ensure that no one lives to fire off a shot in reply.
      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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      • #4
        Arr, keel-haul the scurvy dogs!
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        • #5
          Q ships

          I believe were the traditional response.
          “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

          ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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          • #6
            Bomb them with conventional weapons, and keel haul them. OR, keel haul them, and bomb their remains.
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #7
              1 gold plated ship sails up and down along the coast
              1 attack sub shadows it

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              • #8
                Infiltration tactics. Almost has to be like rooting out any terrorist organization in a countryside with population who supports the terrorists (those terrorists have GOT to be a big boost to the local economies).

                A lot of patrol boats for hijacking suppression.
                (A submarine would NOT be effective vs. the type of boats the hijackers use; perhaps it would be vs. a mother ship).

                Ostracism of anyone who pays ransoms. This would be the most productive, but the most difficult.

                ... Or nothing. Let the situation go as it is. Remember, most of that ransom money is going to be spent sometime, somewhere. Some economy will benefit ... maybe.

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                • #9
                  let Russians take over... it will be a quick win, no nukes needed, cheap in this middle of the housing crisis (for US) and efficient... no more pirates, no more Somalis, just a big national park
                  Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                  GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                  • #10
                    A really good question Lancer. What do you suppose Jesus would do?

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                    • #11
                      Jesus would be WTF, how is the ship moving without sails or rowers.

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                      • #12
                        My wild guess would be He say to not mind it, to follow Him. But, I really don't know. When Jesus returns I don't think pirates are going to be an issue, don't know why.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LotC
                          What do you suppose Jesus would do?
                          he would come over, heal them, feed them, get them jobs and teach them to live in peace... next thing you know he is dead...

                          perhaps we need to give them the benefit of a doubt... first send in Jesus and than if that fails, send the Russians.
                          Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                          GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                          • #14
                            Hmm, can you elaborate on the "send in Jesus" bit? Thanks.
                            Long time member @ Apolyton
                            Civilization player since the dawn of time

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                            • #15
                              So then what would you do about the Somalian pirates?

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