Originally posted by Mrs Snuggles
None of your evidence has actually proven your position.
So, treating people as unequal does not result in oppression.
Treating, say, white people as better than black people, and thus, unequal, does not result in oppression. Case in point, South Africa.
Treating black people as better than white people, and thus, unequal, does not result in oppression. Case in point, Zimbabwe.
Treating men as better than women does not lead to oppression. Case in point, most of history.
Helping oppressed people, yes, fights oppression. But that wasn't what you said. You said treating people as equal lead to oppression, and then you agreed that treating people unequally wouldn't.
So it's clear that you place a value judgement that social violence is less harmful than physical violence.
There are lots and lots of gays who would debate that.
There are lots of ex-Mormons who would debate that.
There are lots of people from all walks of life who would debate that.
Social violence is no less harmful than physical violence, and while physical violence heals in a few weeks or months, psychological damage arising from social violence takes a lot longer to heal.
So, as for myself? Go ahead and punch me in the face. I can deal. It's better than getting my mom to disown me and my brother to treat me like an HIV-addled leper. I'd rather be hit by a two-by-four and have my legs broken than have all of my friends shun me.
Physical, 'masculine' violence doesn't bother me nearly as much.
Classy.
None of your evidence has actually proven your position.
So, treating people as unequal does not result in oppression.
Treating, say, white people as better than black people, and thus, unequal, does not result in oppression. Case in point, South Africa.
Treating black people as better than white people, and thus, unequal, does not result in oppression. Case in point, Zimbabwe.
Treating men as better than women does not lead to oppression. Case in point, most of history.
Helping oppressed people, yes, fights oppression. But that wasn't what you said. You said treating people as equal lead to oppression, and then you agreed that treating people unequally wouldn't.
So it's clear that you place a value judgement that social violence is less harmful than physical violence.
There are lots and lots of gays who would debate that.
There are lots of ex-Mormons who would debate that.
There are lots of people from all walks of life who would debate that.
Social violence is no less harmful than physical violence, and while physical violence heals in a few weeks or months, psychological damage arising from social violence takes a lot longer to heal.
So, as for myself? Go ahead and punch me in the face. I can deal. It's better than getting my mom to disown me and my brother to treat me like an HIV-addled leper. I'd rather be hit by a two-by-four and have my legs broken than have all of my friends shun me.
Physical, 'masculine' violence doesn't bother me nearly as much.
Classy.
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