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  • #46
    Originally posted by Lancer


    What is an allied nation? Allied nations hang together in tough times so they don't hang alone. I can see McCain not meeting the Spanish government because they don't fit the criteria. I don't want a US pres making happy with such europowers and saying they are saving the alliance, or claiming to undo the damage caused by the Bush administration by getting cozy with wimps and claiming we are somehow stronger.
    You say this and keep selling the idea of expanding NATO to cover Georgia and the Ukraine??
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    • #47
      Well yeah GePap. It's a bad deal but it is the only game in town.
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      • #48
        We need to retreat, regroup and reorganize.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by SlowwHand
          We need to redeploy, regroup and reorganize.
          Fixed.
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          • #50
            That will work.
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            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #51
              If a relative insults a guest in my home, I don't care who the relative is, they are an *******, you don't do that.

              Spain is an ally, a friendly nation and has done right by the U.S., McCain is a douchebag and if he had any class he would explain it was a mistake and apologize or admit ignorance and apologize. Either way, he owes Spain an apology. I've gotten gradually more upset over this, as the day has gone on. That is just messed up :/

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              • #52
                Obama should probably harp on it, if he wants to emphasize McCain = Bush
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Ninot
                  Obama should probably harp on it, if he wants to emphasize McCain = Bush
                  It doesn't insult women, old people, mothers, gun owners or people who believe in God or folks who don't use comps or live in small towns so I don't think they'll go with it.
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                  • #54
                    Spain has been a good friend considering the crap they have had to put up with from U.S. in the last 8 years, they deserve better.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Vesayen
                      If a relative insults a guest in my home, I don't care who the relative is, they are an *******, you don't do that.

                      Spain is an ally, a friendly nation and has done right by the U.S., McCain is a douchebag and if he had any class he would explain it was a mistake and apologize or admit ignorance and apologize. Either way, he owes Spain an apology. I've gotten gradually more upset over this, as the day has gone on. That is just messed up :/

                      In what parallel universe?
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                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #56
                        Actually this doesn't surprise me that McCain holds a grudge against Spain. His childhood memories of the Spanish-American War and being a Rough Rider are still strong.

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                        • #57
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                          • #58
                            I can't belive USAians don't consider NATO members allies.

                            The Madrid attack only happened because of Spanish support of the US.

                            We Euros should start ignoring NATO and form our own alliance. I'm sure the French wouldn't mind feeling important for a change, I'll write a letter to my representative stressing why I think it is wital we kiss their and Germany's ass instead of the US's.

                            Let ze building of ze new grand Entente begin!



                            On second thought what if we just kick the US out of NATO?
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                            • #59
                              Hera, can you hurry that along please? Thanks.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Lancer
                                Hera, can you hurry that along please? Thanks.
                                Or maybe we should ally with Mother Russia instead.



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                                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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