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  • #16
    Moderates? Erm, this is Apolyton.
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    • #17
      ISn't Palin more right wing than McCain? She was picked to pick up the right wing voters who wouldn't bother going to the election because all pf the candidates are liberal wackos. In that case she works perfectly. And McCain is the only one that should appeal to moderates, right?Which is good, because he is the one with the real power...

      ...Where is Biden in relation to the middle ground and Obama? If Biden is to the left of Obama, the the question for the moderates is between Obama and McCain. If Biden is the the right of Obama, then the battle is between Obama with Biden and McCain...

      Have I understoofd this correctly?
      You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Theben
        So what do the moderates have to say?
        "Where are these topless photos we've been teased with?"
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        • #19
          In other news, in the first poll taken since McCain picked Palin, Obama's up by a wider margin than he has been for weeks, and has cracked the 50% mark (the first time either he or McCain has done so in a match-up between the two of them). McCain's pick, like Obama's stadium speech, looks like it may be a bold, risky political move that didn't flop, but didn't change anything.
          "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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          • #20
            As a moderate, it strikes a bit as a daring move that ends with a "Huh?"

            The experience argument is out the window. The right-wing talkmeisters are already trying the flimsiest lines, such as the laughable notion that being next to Russia automagically imparts foreign policy knowledge.

            There's the judgement issue, too-McCain had apparently met Palin only once before, and only briefly. Hardly inspiring.

            There's the tokenism-do they really believe that Vagina-Americans would gravitate toward someone who might be utterly opposed to their political beliefs solely because she's oddly shaped at the top like they are?

            But also the strangeness of the revelation of the daughter's pregnancy: saying she came to a decision to keep it-implying there was some sort of choice involved-something which Palin herself opposes.

            So, more interesting than the vanilla that was Biden; unfortunatrly, a choice that was also quite dismaying.

            It's only confirmed my refusal to vote McCain, more than a selection of Romney or Huckabee ever would have.
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            • #21
              As a moderate, it strikes a bit as a daring move that ends with a "Huh?"

              The experience argument is out the window. The right-wing talkmeisters are already trying the flimsiest lines, such as the laughable notion that being next to Russia automagically imparts foreign policy knowledge.

              There's the judgement issue, too-McCain had apparently met Palin only once before, and only briefly. Hardly inspiring.

              There's the tokenism-do they really believe that Vagina-Americans would gravitate toward someone who might be utterly opposed to their political beliefs solely because she's oddly shaped at the top like they are?

              But also the strangeness of the revelation of the daughter's pregnancy: saying she came to a decision to keep it-implying there was some sort of choice involved-something which Palin herself opposes.

              So, more interesting than the vanilla that was Biden; unfortunatrly, a choice that was also quite dismaying.

              It's only confirmed my refusal to vote McCain, more than a selection of Romney or Huckabee ever would have.
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              • #22
                I've deliberately not read the thread yet. I am predicting, envelope-to-forehead, that this will somehow involve the evil of feminists or the weakness of Christianity. Probably the first. There's an outside chance it will involve wicked Muslims. I'd say the probability breakdown is 70% feminism, 25% Christianity, 4% Islam and 1% other. Let's see if I was right.

                EDIT: Blast! It only peripherally mentions feminism in the form of a condescending reference to women in power. Nobody will ever hire me as a psychic.

                As a moderate, I think Palin appears ever crazier the more I hear about her. After that crap about threatening the librarian over immoral books or whatever I'm almost certainly voting Obama (almost certainly; he could still resurrect Hitler). And I don't think she needs topless pics so much as a wild video starring her as the strict librarian and someone who looks like me as the naughty boy who kept books past their due date and needs a spanking. Maybe that could be an incentive for donating a large amount to the campaign fund?
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                • #23
                  The Palin choice's effects will be shown in the gall-up polls. Because poltics is mostly irrational it is a waste of time to agrue the 'should' behind this...
                  “...This means GCA won 7 battles against our units, had Horsemen retreat from 2 battles against NMs, and lost 0 battles.” --Jon Shafer 1st ISDG

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Zkribbler


                    Not the daughter -- the mother. What kind of parent sends a teenager out into today's hypersexed world without the knowledge necessary for her to protect herself?
                    Honestly, plenty of teenagers who know better get pregnant anyway. I don't really beleive that even 25% of teen pregnancies are due to lack of information about condoms/pregnancy.

                    JM
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                    • #25
                      I once asked a girl if she would think about having sex with me. She said no and then, like in Dumb and Dumber, said I AM THINKING about having sex with you. We had the wild sex. I am still laughing about it several years later

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                      • #26
                        How can anyone who has as much sex as you say you do be so angry?
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles
                          How can anyone who has as much sex as you say you do be so angry?
                          I am not angry at all, and I get no sex. Maybe the two aren't correlated like some say.

                          JM
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                          • #28
                            Someone missed a post
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #29
                              Not necessarily. His remark makes just as much sense if you assume he knows the remark was addressed to Wiggy.
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                              • #30
                                The pick does nothing for moderates, but it wasn't designed to either. Members Evangelical Republican base are quietly touching themselves right now. Once more about her actual social policy positions gets out into the open, I think moderates will find her repelling. But that's the group that McCain is supposed to attract, and he really needs to get the base excited about something.

                                It was a ballsy move, but, in the end, I don't think it will work out for him. The idea of trying to attract female voters by putting a woman on the ticket is, in my mind, pure fantasy. If women aren't aware of what she stands for yet, they soon will be. The Democratic machine will see to that, and they will undoubtedly be ruthless.
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