Discriminating against Roma isn't racist - because they're all thieves

[Julian Delphiki]

Originally posted by OzzyKP


Exactly.

Especially those evil Finns.

Fixed!

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Blaupanzer
And those Poles. Always being in the way when some "better" nation wants to start a war. What's up with that?

And those Macedonians who think they can call themselves whatever they like.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Socialist health care systems.

People who can't be open-minded of how other people do things At least if you're not rich you still get healthcare over here...

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Will9


BTW, Hera

Me

Originally posted by OzzyKP


Socialist health care systems.

Hera being in good health:

You dirty capitalist pig, dissing the glorious achievements of our revolutionary socialist people's republic! I would report you to the commissar but then I would have to confess to him that I own a computer with internet access.


Thanks guys.


Good to be back. Also Grandpa Troll has overstated the effects of medication on posting. :'(

BTW I hope he is well, I think Mrs Troll posted something about him.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison


People who can't be open-minded of how other people do things At least if you're not rich you still get healthcare over here...

BTW If I'm serious for a moment. Its a new practice in Slovenia that we get to see how much we cost the system. I'll just say


I don't know if I could have afforded that... I kind of promised myself I won't cheat on my taxes like ever*. Cause after benefiting from a system like that, it would be duplicitous for me to fail at keeping my part of the social contract.


*

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
I do think it is interesting that Europeans who fight tirelessly for overly generous social welfare programs get all upset when people abuse the system. Yet instead of blaming it on the system itself that encourages such behavior it takes the tone of racism and scapegoating some poor ethnic group in the country who takes advantage of it.

I find it interesting that Americans, who are supposed to place such stock in individual liberty and responsibility, are so desperate to blame "the system" for the individual and personal failings of others.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by OzzyKP

Hera being in good health:

QFT

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp



I find it interesting that Americans, who are supposed to place such stock in individual liberty and responsibility, are so desperate to blame "the system" for the individual and personal failings of others.

I find it interesting that people blame it either on the system or individuals, but no one is allowed to blame it on a group of individuals, who happen to share a similar cultural and ethnic heritage. As that would be racist, even if true.

[Victor Galis]

Originally posted by TheStinger
I can't beleive alot of the stuff I'm reading, you do know that Roma/Gypsies whatever have been the lowest of the low for centuries and that Hitler had a go at exterminating them.

If you swapped Roma for Jews there would be outrage

Yeah, but the Jews were highly productive members of their societies who were often targetted so their assets could be siezed (aside from just plain old-fashioned racism). It's kind of the opposite problem.

Well if Slovakia and Romania would just give Hungary back the land that was stolen from them, there would be no issue.

I see I was mistaken in my earlier assessment.

The point here is that it's a bad idea to single out an entire people for special treatment with some vague generalizations as justification.

Only if membership in that larger group is irrelevant to the problem, i.e. there's a lot more black criminals in the states proportionally; however, that disparity largely dissappears when you take other factors into account such as poverty, etc. I think the fact that they are gypsies is inherently related to the criminality for cultural reasons.

The Gypsies can't possibly be thieves and crooks. If they were, the Italians would have voted them into high office.

Well played, sir

I find it interesting that Americans, who are supposed to place such stock in individual liberty and responsibility, are so desperate to blame "the system" for the individual and personal failings of others.

Well of course, individuals are perfect... if only the system wouldn't be keeping them down .

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov


I find it interesting that people blame it either on the system or individuals, but no one is allowed to blame it on a group of individuals, who happen to share a similar cultural and ethnic heritage. As that would be racist, even if true.

Yeah! If only someone could put an end to the global Zionist conspiracy(TM).

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Heraclitus


Yeah! If only someone could put an end to the global Zionist conspiracy(TM).

no conspiracy.

but I'm fully willing to admit that Jewish cultural traights make them better at bussines and more eager to promote themselves to places of influence.


btw, I just celebrated your return

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov


no conspiracy.

but I'm fully willing to admit that Jewish cultural traights make them better at bussines and more eager to promote themselves to places of influence.


btw, I just celebrated your return

I could string this along, but I'm for some reason finding it hard to use/detect sarcasm, so I'll just be nice:

I was kidding.

Damn, that felt like a really stupid thing to say. No wonder I prefer evil characters.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
but I'm fully willing to admit that Jewish cultural traights make them better at bussines and more eager to promote themselves to places of influence.

So, due to a complete lack of morals and dignity then

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
I find it interesting that people blame it either on the system or individuals, but no one is allowed to blame it on a group of individuals, who happen to share a similar cultural and ethnic heritage. As that would be racist, even if true.

Because "group of indivduals are more..." turns quickly into "you are one of those group, so naturally you are...".

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
So, due to a complete lack of morals and dignity then

Originally posted by Heraclitus
I could string this along, but I'm for some reason finding it hard to use/detect sarcasm, so I'll just be nice:

I was kidding.

Damn, that felt like a really stupid thing to say. No wonder I prefer evil characters.

My fault.

I view this as a sarcastic yet competitioni nviting smilie.

i knew you were kidding.
really.

honest.

seriously though, i knew.