I don't know if you guys noticed, but he had a huge-ass moustache. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is my deep thought for the day.
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Originally posted by Oncle Boris
edit: It's an interesting problem. I'd say that he admired him for other reasons.bleh
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Originally posted by Nostromo
I don't know if you guys noticed, but he had a huge-ass moustache. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is my deep thought for the day.
*sigh*
Does anybody have an opinion on my writing? Just in case I'm insane: I believe there are three paragraphs of creative analysis following the quotation in the first post of this thread. If there are not, then I am insane, and shall take a nap.
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Originally posted by Nostromo
I don't know if you guys noticed, but he had a huge-ass moustache. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is my deep thought for the day.
WRT his philosobabble, Nietzsche was one hell of a writer and quite smart, but it's his own damned fault nobody knows what he's talking about. He decided to write in those obtuse aphorisms, apparently to keep the dumb masses from understanding him, with the result that tons of pretentious people turn to him after they've exhausted the fine film-spaz nuances of the Matrix trilogy. Personally, I think we need more diverse pretentious-poser interests. Have you considered Child Roland to the Dark Tower Came, or Stairway to Heaven? Both are perfectly meaningless but lend themselves well to deep thought, man.
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Originally posted by GePap
"bull"? The Europe he described was about to destroy itself happily and willingly in two World Wars, and was about to commit horrible attrocities, and not oly in Europe.
And about two WWs he couldn't know in 1895. At best he could have a vague notion of another possible war in Europe, but the dimension of WWI was hardly something one could easily foresee 20 yrs before.Last edited by BeBMan; June 20, 2008, 13:25.Blah
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Originally posted by Oncle Boris
The first paragraph sounds like drivel, the other two are cute.
Might be because of some semantic problems I had with the original quote. Might be because it's easier for people to relate to the concept of "a visionary" than that of "a liar". Maybe I overshot because I have specialized in the study of lying and deception.
Merci.
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An example of visionary vs. liar.
The Wright brothers thought that a machine could be made to allowed flight, and participated in the vision of actually piloting.
Had they said the same, but sent a hated mother-in-law off on the flight, that would lended itself to being liars, not visionaries.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Originally posted by BeBro
Wars and atrocities happend enough during the renaissance. N idealizes guys like Cesare Borgia (for example in Beyond Good and Evil) who is often seen as one of the worst tyrants of the time. He draws a line from the "renaissance man" (well, his idealized version) to his "overman". This maybe makes sense when looking at the renaissance guys with the overman concept in mind, but it makes no sense to use it as example of a morally "better" or more peaceful Europe or Europeans.
And about two WWs he couldn't know in 1895. At best he could have a vague notion of another possible war in Europe, but the dimension of WWI was hardly something one could easily foresee 20 yrs before.
I know my fate. One day my name will be associated with the memory of something tremendous — a crisis without equal on earth, the most profound collision of conscience, a decision that was conjured up against everything that had been believed, demanded, hallowed so far. I am no man, I am dynamite. Ecce HomoIf you don't like reality, change it! me
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WRT his philosobabble, Nietzsche was one hell of a writer and quite smart, but it's his own damned fault nobody knows what he's talking about. He decided to write in those obtuse aphorisms, apparently to keep the dumb masses from understanding him, with the result that tons of pretentious people turn to him after they've exhausted the fine film-spaz nuances of the Matrix trilogy. Personally, I think we need more diverse pretentious-poser interests. Have you considered Child Roland to the Dark Tower Came, or Stairway to Heaven? Both are perfectly meaningless but lend themselves well to deep thought, man.Last edited by Nostromo; June 20, 2008, 15:28.Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing
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Originally posted by Deity Dude
"Whatever does not destroy me, only ..."Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
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Originally posted by GePap
Nietzsche didn't care for "peaceful" or "moral." The people in the Renaissance were overthrowing old staid morality, were creating new things, studying the old but also making the new. This is what Neitzsche craved. For him the Europe of the late 19th century was wallowing in decadence, in idelogies he viewed with disgust.
The problem with his view on the rennaissance is that it's mostly a cliché. "Overthrowing old staid morality" for example didn't mean that they really turned against Christianity. There was often a different approach to religion, but it wasn't rejected as such on a large scale. In other situations, like the endless conflicts between Italian city states it was more a decline of any morale than a creative process with rejection of old values and introduction of new ones.
He idealizes the renaissance into something which it hardly has been. "Creating new things, studying the old but also making the new" could go for his contemporaries as well, just that N maybe doesn't like the change he sees.
I know my fate. One day my name will be associated with the memory of something tremendous — a crisis without equal on earth, the most profound collision of conscience, a decision that was conjured up against everything that had been believed, demanded, hallowed so far. I am no man, I am dynamite. Ecce HomoBlah
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Originally posted by Nostromo
WTF are you talking about? You make him sound like he was Hegel or Heidegger. He's a LOT easier to read than either of them.
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