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[DaShi]

And hold off on the lies. Frankly, that you cling to lying so much is disturbing.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


correction 3 choices

1. the one you took namely calling people out for an attempted insult

2. Ignore the jibe

3. Accept the term and thank the posters for their implied compliment

More choices always welcomed for my feeble brain.

Dang, you've got a lot more posts to correct, if you're going to start doing it now. And there are more than three choices. This type of reasoning is flawed.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


Not really, I am very tired of all the pol threads at the moment. And to be truthful the act of arguing one iota is a waste of electrons as there has yet to be a person persuaded on Poly of anything so far as I can tell.

I could give adnauseum slams against Obama, McCain or Hillary but realize my doing so means little to anyone else or their voting liklihoods. So naah I think I'll pass and explore the motivations of posters instead as I find it a more interesting diversion.

I'm afraid I have to agree. It's the main reason I haven't primarilly posted just political threads since 2006. I still post the odd one but they're likely down to less then 1 in 4 these days. They just always seem to end up being a circle jerk among the same people.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by DaShi


Either or questions are not open-ended. And I've answered them all as presented. Please stay in reality with me.

Where did I have an either or question?

OTOH an example of an open ended question

So in your estimation then what were the 'enemies of Oerdin' (is that trademarked?) attempting to claim against you if not an all consuming hackery motif?

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


Where did I have an either or question?

OTOH an example of an open ended question

So in your estimation then what were the 'enemies of Oerdin' (is that trademarked?) attempting to claim against you if not an all consuming hackery motif?

Um. . .you're example is of a leading question. It still assumes either one point or another. If you stopped at "against you" it would be fine.

Now here's another one that fits what I'm saying.

"Is there something wrong with advocacy or do you completely dismiss all things Oerdin-like (whatever that might be)?"

Yes, I know the word "either" isn't in it. Please, let me know if you need it explained.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Oerdin


I'm afraid I have to agree. It's the main reason I haven't primarilly posted just political threads since 2006. I still post the odd one but they're likely down to less then 1 in 4 these days. They just always seem to end up being a circle jerk among the same people.

You have a fan club. A pity the mods are so lax about it though.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by DaShi


Dang, you've got a lot more posts to correct, if you're going to start doing it now. And there are more than three choices. This type of reasoning is flawed.

And I await them with baited breath.

[Ninot]

Dashi is pulling a Dashi (to be specific, he's going off on a tangent and taking it too far just to win an argument )

I actually support most of Oerdin's views, but it is kinda the common consensus that he posts argumentative articles much like the one Dashi posted. Thus the comment.

But the actual intent or meaning of this thread or my comment is meaningless now. Dashi will just argue down any tangent now and claim to be correct untill page 6 or so of the thread.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by DaShi


Um. . .you're example is of a leading question. It still assumes either one point or another. If you stopped at "against you" it would be fine.

Not so, it discounts immediately one possible motivation and asks for any of a myriad of others. Hardly leading.

Now here's another one that fits what I'm saying.

"Is there something wrong with advocacy or do you completely dismiss all things Oerdin-like (whatever that might be)?"

Yes, I know the word "either" isn't in it. Please, let me know if you need it explained.

Actually that is a simple qualifying question with a simple yes or no answer. The fact that your answer prevaricated implied deeper probing was required.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


And I await them with baited breath.

Really?

This one is completely made up. I proved the first part, and you admitted to the second:

"Dashi has been a long time advocate of O'. I simply wonder why the diminished brand equity of the O' moniker."

This one has the same problem as the first. And you did make assumptions about me.

"How is this an insult at all to you? Am I now to presuppose that even being supportive of Oerdin is an insult? Ouch! No I would not stoop so far. I ask again why is invoking Oerdins name an insult? I again want to understand how much or little that brand equity holds. Were I to actually make assumptions about you (to wit I have not), I would assume you feel the brand is in fact a liability. The why however is the crux of the matter. You said it was intent. Expound upon this."

This was all BS. Three months ago, come on:

"Games? I merely am trying to understand the forum dynamics having been gone so long."

You're initial assumption has been disproven, so this is wrong:

"As for humiliation, the fact that you understand (even on a subconscious level) how little stock people put in the likes of political hackery and the comparison you drew and likely will continue to at the rate you are progressing should be enough sour milk for your dining displeasure."

This is a lie:

"Today I see just Pat fighting against him on a regular basis with most other people simply dismissing him. But I don't know the in between history so much."

Way wrong:

"Obviously not so in that you initially took offense to it."

The OP had nothing to do with any of this:

"Not really, I am very tired of all the pol threads at the moment. And to be truthful the act of arguing one iota is a waste of electrons as there has yet to be a person persuaded on Poly of anything so far as I can tell.

I could give adnauseum slams against Obama, McCain or Hillary but realize my doing so means little to anyone else or their voting liklihoods. So naah I think I'll pass and explore the motivations of posters instead as I find it a more interesting diversion."

Whoops, this ain't true:

"And yet I continue to ask open ended questions as to the alternatives but have few provided in return response."

This is still wrong:

"correction 3 choices

1. the one you took namely calling people out for an attempted insult

2. Ignore the jibe

3. Accept the term and thank the posters for their implied compliment"

Wow, looking at all this. You're a really slimy person.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


Not so, it discounts immediately one possible motivation and asks for any of a myriad of others. Hardly leading.

Either it's what you say or it's not. The question requires a dismissal of your assumption (a "no").

Actually that is a simple qualifying question with a simple yes or no answer. The fact that your answer prevaricated implied deeper probing was required.

Yes, it was an either. . .or question.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

I am speechless that you think you have provided proof of anything short of speculation. If this is what passes for logic these days, God help the younger generation.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Ninot
Dashi is pulling a Dashi (to be specific, he's going off on a tangent and taking it too far just to win an argument )

Not so. I won long ago. In fact, I tried at the beginning and later to bring this back on topic. Oggie just can't let it go. I suppose I should just stop correcting him at this point. You are right that this is going on too long. I'm done, Oggie.

I actually support most of Oerdin's views, but it is kinda the common consensus that he posts argumentative articles much like the one Dashi posted. Thus the comment.

Of course, it's argumentative. I wanted a discussion. Not a bunch of nodding heads. What did you contribute?

But the actual intent or meaning of this thread or my comment is meaningless now. Dashi will just argue down any tangent now and claim to be correct untill page 6 or so of the thread.

I can't help it if I'm right. However, I am a reasonable person. I would prefer this thread to go back on topic. In fact, forget this one. A lot of people have made mistakes, I'm sure they regret.

Mods, please close this. I'll just remake the thread with the original article to allow those who want to discuss it do so without all this drivel. If it descends into madness as well, then I give up on it.

[Ninot]

You pretty much proved me right as well

[DaShi]

Well, we can both be right then.