I am not afraid to die, but I am.

[Hauptman]

Originally posted by Agathon


Everyone wastes their life. Nothing you do will ever matter.

Adolf Hitler and Joeseph Stalin might beg to differ. they deffinatly made a lasting impact. That's the real trouble though, only the nasty ones can make a real difference.~

I have been devoting my life to finding a way to download my thought processes and memories into the internet. So I will leave my body, wich will die a vegtable, But my mind will live on! then I can invade people through the next generation I-pods and take over their bodies... You know, whenever I need to get laid.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Hauptman
I have been devoting my life to finding a way to download my thought processes and memories into the internet.

In other words you have been spaming on forums.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Hauptman


Adolf Hitler and Joeseph Stalin might beg to differ. they deffinatly made a lasting impact. That's the real trouble though, only the nasty ones can make a real difference.~

Napoleon, Ghengish Khan, Charlemagne, ect,

But we also have Aristotel, Plato, Jesus, the Bhudda, Confucius and Albert Einstein.

[Nikolai]

I'm not afraid of death, I know what awaits me. I am afraid of the moment of death though.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Agathon
Everyone wastes their life. Nothing you do will ever matter.

This is only true on a grand scale. Things you do may matter in a limited context - to a specific person or object or what have you. But having a lasting impact on the world, the universe? Yes, virtually impossible, and it's unlikely that you could ever do something that would matter on that level.

Thus the need for immortality...

[C0ckney]

Originally posted by Agathon


Everyone wastes their life. Nothing you do will ever matter.

that's a very negative view. unless you believe that the only things that matter are those that have an effect on the world as a whole. as opposed to what you do in the context of your friends, family and community.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Nikolai
I'm not afraid of death, I know what awaits me. I am afraid of the moment of death though.

What if you are wrong?

[C0ckney]

he'll find out for sure when it happens, like we all will.

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by Heraclitus


What if you are wrong?

I believe I'm right.

[Spec]

That's what makes it so sad...

But I truely hope you are.

Spec.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Spec
That's what makes it so sad...

But I truely hope you are.

Spec.

Actually, I think us nonbelievers are engaged in a much riskier proposition, and one with far more potential to be... uh... sad.

If Nikolai dies and there is no God, then there is nonexistence and he never finds out he was wrong. In his last few moments before death he'll probably hallucinate his heaven anyways, so he'll die thinking he's right.

If we die and the Christian God as personified in the Bible is real, then we go to hell and suffer for an eternity with the full knowledge that our entire lives were wasted as infidels.

[Spec]

Listen, if god all mighty, who is supposed to love everyone the same, sends me to hell because I never beleived in something in which no proof has ever been provided to me, then so be it.

If god created us and gave us the ability to doubt and then he holds it against me afterwards, I want nothing to do with a hypocrite like that.

Spec.

[Arrian]

I don't fear death, per se, but I do fear dying painfully. I'd like to live a long time... I generally like my life, and maybe I'll be sad to leave it. Or perhaps not. Maybe I'll be tired of it and ready to let it go. No way to know now.

-Arrian

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Spec
Listen, if god all mighty, who is supposed to love everyone the same, sends me to hell because I never beleived in something in which no proof has ever been provided to me, then so be it.

If god created us and gave us the ability to doubt and then he holds it against me afterwards, I want nothing to do with a hypocrite like that.

Spec.

Well, this is where you and I differ. If I found out that the Christian God was real (or any other god or form of divinity, for that matter), I would instantly convert and become the most ardent of zealots.

As far as I'm concerned, God doesn't have to be fair or nice or even consistent, because he's God; he defines the objective standards of right and wrong. If I show up in Hell, I'll do so as the moust devout of Christians.

Understand, however, that I think the odds of this happening are extremely low because, of course, I'm pretty damn sure that my beliefs are the right ones.

But that's not really the point. In fact, I didn't have a point. I just thought it was an amusing scenario.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Lorizael
Actually, I think us nonbelievers are engaged in a much riskier proposition, and one with far more potential to be... uh... sad.
...

If we die and the Christian God as personified in the Bible is real, then we go to hell and suffer for an eternity with the full knowledge that our entire lives were wasted as infidels.

I don't believe in that God, but I do believe that if it did exist it would not be such a **** as to torture for eternity those who didn't believe in it.