Why do cops do stupid things...

[Wezil]

...when they know they are on camera?

[Patroklos]

There is nothing wrong with restraining her and putting her in the padded room. She was wasted, and with the room monitored there is nothing wrong with letting her sober up.

She kicked her shoe off in that manner for a reason, she was purposely being aggressive. Given her ealier behavior in the police cruiser and female officer correctly interpreting the girl thowing a shoe at her on purpose, I have no problem with the police restrainer her again.

The leash thing and leaving her there like that for four hours is a legitimate gripe.

[Riesstiu IV]

What kind of p*ssies become police officers? OMG that 15 year old girl is too dangerous/powerful! Better physically assault and restrain her.

[Wezil]

Quit now Pat. You will lose this one.

edit - So we are clear....

You have no problem with "restraining" her but don't agree with the leash thing. As the leash was the restraint you aren't quite clear to me. Or do you think cuffs in the padded room was acceptable restraint?

[Wiglaf]

Dumb ho should have been shot for making an aggressive action towards the cops. And her crying is pathetic, it's not like she was raped or unjustly held. NEXT

[Wezil]

You get a pass Wiggy. I never know when to take you seriously (if ever).

[Patroklos]

You have no problem with "restraining" her but don't agree with the leash thing.

Of course not, why would anyone have a problem with simple restraint? She did kick her shoe across the room in the direction of the officer after having been uncooperative , it is not very hard to see why that officer interpreted it the way she did (for all we know the kid WAS being purposely aggressive). Try tossing your wallet at a cop at a traffic stop instead of passing it to them.

The leash thing is ridiculous. I can't think of any reason why you would not use proper leg restraints, and after a violent take down like that (justified or not) you definetly don't leave them for four hours without checking on them.

She said she was innocent, what is the drinking age and public intoxication laws in BC?

[Wezil]

Alright. I don't wish to fight with you tonight and our difference is only one of degree. Fair enough.

Let's play a game (in good fun) shall we?

Should she get any $$ and if so...how much?

[SlowwHand]

"This is what they do to innocent people."

I have to admit, I quit watching right after that point, which was fairly quick.

[Wezil]

Yeah, that is pretty funny. As Pat pointed out, she was a little young for the booze.

At less than 100lbs she was also a little small for the booze.

[Patroklos]

Should she get any $$ and if so...how much?

No money, just an apology and official repremands for the cops.

She wasn't injured, at least not from the leash and being left alone but rather from the take down as far as I can tell. Handcuffs always leave bruises, at least they do on me.

Well, maybe some money for the being left alone thing if she can prove emotional damages or what not. She is not a sympathetic character, she was there for a reason in the first place and restrained for a valid reason.

[Wezil]

She ended up doing well.

VICTORIA - A weeping Willow Kinloch hugged her mother in the courtroom moments after a jury returned a verdict Thursday that found Victoria Police officers violated the teen's rights when they restrained her in a padded police cell.

The jury at a B.C. Supreme Court civil trial awarded Kinloch $60,000 for the incident in May 2005 when Kinloch, then 15, spent four hours in handcuffs and leg restraints, leashed to the door of the cell.

"I knew at the time it wasn't OK," said Kinloch, standing outside of the courthouse with her mother and her lawyer after the verdict. "I never really thought about the money. I'm really just happy that it's gotten out there and that everybody knows what's really happening and that it's not OK, and that hopefully it's not going to happen to anyone else."

The jury found the Victoria Police officers violated Kinloch's charter right to not be arbitrarily detained and subjected her to cruel and unusual punishment.

Kinloch, now 18 and still just about 100 pounds, had been arrested for being drunk. She ended up leashed and bound in the padded cell for four hours without being offered a glass of water or the use of a telephone.

The entire episode was captured on a police jail cell video, which was used extensively as evidence throughout the weeklong trial.


The surveillance video showed the tiny teen pacing the padded cell like a caged animal, kicking and punching at the walls. Then officers are seen entering the cell and placing Kinloch, who is not struggling, in restraints.

Kinloch named two Victoria police officials, two police headquarters jail officials and the City of Victoria in the lawsuit.

The two Victoria Police officers, constables Brian Asmussen and Ryan O'Neill, both testified they placed Kinloch in restraints as a result of an altercation with the jail matron. The officers said they believed it was the right thing to do for Kinloch's protection and the protection of others.

Police testified they tied Kinloch's hands and feet behind her back and tethered her to the jail cell door after Kinloch became involved with jail cell guard Merle Edmunds when her shoe hit Edmunds on the shin.

Kinloch's lawyer, Richard Neary, said the actions were cruel and breached Kinloch's Constitutional rights. He said the video evidence shows the jury Kinloch was not being overly aggressive and out of control.

Neary said the video evidence played an important role in the trial, providing Kinloch with proof of her night in police cells and showing the police officers engaging in activities they felt were part of their everyday duties.

Victoria Police launched an internal investigation into the incident after the video was released by Kinloch's lawyer earlier this year, but the acting police chief had said the teen was kept in the cell for her own protection.

Interim Victoria Police Chief Bill Naughton said the department will review the decision in detail, and the review will include an examination of its use of restraints guidelines on members of the public.

He apologized to Kinloch and her family.

"While it was always our intention to keep Ms. Kinloch safe, we regret the distress that this has caused Ms. Kinloch and her family," Naughton said.

He said the jury's decision reflects the attitudes of the community, "and we're going to respect that decision."

The B.C. Civil Liberties Association also filed a complaint to the B.C. Police Complaints Commissioner over the incident.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/05/15/5580471-cp.html

[SlowwHand]

Fine her mother for being a fatass who doesn't seem to care that her daughter was out getting torched, necessetating the need to even go to jail.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Fine her mother for being a fatass who doesn't seem to care that her daughter was out getting torched, necessetating the need to even go to jail.

Our Supreme Court had an interesting ruling wrt youth justice legislation today that would make an interesting thread but I'm out for the day. I didn't even make it to Weird News items.

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Fine her mother for being a fatass who doesn't seem to care that her daughter was out getting torched, necessetating the need to even go to jail.

ehhh...