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  • Don't Ask, Don't Tell (and its depiction last night in Grey's Anatomy)

    Yes, another thread on it. Couldn't find the last one we had.

    Last night's Grey's Anatomy (yes, I know) had a fantastic subplot.

    It opened with a young soldier waiting for surgery (brain tumor), accompanied by a military officer as well as his father.

    Another soldier enters the room, presumably his friend, who was about to be deployed overseas. He had offered to go AWOL to help him recuperate, even though the sick soldier protested this. There is a very clear and obvious tension in the room.

    As soon as everyone else cleared the room, they kissed -- quite passionately, like any other pair of young lovers would kiss. Their kiss was interrupted by the sick soldier's angry father, who ordered the boyfriend out of the room…

    This subplot continues throughout the rest of the episode. The soldier dies in surgery, the boyfriend storms up to the father and demands to know what has happened, etc. At the very end, he says goodbye to the dead soldier and kisses him gently again...the father gave a solemn nod to the boyfriend at the end as well.

    This episode vividly demonstrated the evil of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" and for depicted the soldiers as loving, devoted, passionate humans who actually kissed like lovers kiss. I'm wondering if anyone who watched the episode may've had their opinions changed somewhat as a result -- but given the target audience of Grey's Anatomy, probably not.



    The initial clip is here:


    Anyway, felt like sharing. Needless to say, Don't Ask / Don't Tell is evil, even if these are fictitious characters. They're far more real than a lot of people want to admit though -- does anyone here remember connorkimbro?
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

  • #2
    More like Gay's Anatomy. The policy is important, because the military is all about expressing masculinity, by shooting people and being fearless, and none of this mushy gushy kiss me on the bed table and have all the related videos link to softcore gay porn on Youtube stuff.

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    • #3
      I completely agree with you on this, Asher. Dishonorable discharges and discrimination against gays and lesbians has actually INCREASED due to Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell" compromise with a Republican-dominated Congress.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #4
        Silly intolerant gay-hating tv depicts gayness as result of having a brain tumor and people are supposed to learn from that???

        Blah

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        • #5
          Can someone explain how this situation shows the evil of "don't ask, don't tell" policies?

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          • #6
            You don't think those soldiers would be pained by such a policy?
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Asher
              You don't think those soldiers would be pained by such a policy?
              Depends on what the writers thought.
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              • #8
                I suppose it is an inconceivable situation for you. Even though we've had several members on Apolyton alone in the US armed forces directly affected by don't ask, don't tell...
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #9
                  Only one that I know of.

                  ACK!
                  Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Don't Ask, Don't Tell (and its depiction last night in Grey's Anatomy)

                    Originally posted by Asher
                    does anyone here remember connorkimbro?
                    I'm more interested in what happened to connor. Haven't seen him in a long time.
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                    • #11
                      i remember he was in the navy.
                      i think he's just working

                      also he had a line of job which requires secrecy

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                      • #12
                        Don't Ask, Don't Tell has to do with gay people in the military, but I'm not entirely sure what these two gay people in the military have to do with Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Of course, I didn't watch the show so I could be missing something.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Asher
                          You don't think those soldiers would be pained by such a policy?
                          I'm not trying to argue, I just wanted you to explain what evils of the policy you think the story in the OP was demonstrating.

                          For example, the father isn't in the army. Hence his actions\reactions at the situation could be the same, policy or no?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lul Thyme


                            I'm not trying to argue, I just wanted you to explain what evils of the policy you think the story in the OP was demonstrating.

                            For example, the father isn't in the army. Hence his actions\reactions at the situation could be the same, policy or no?
                            Yes, but that's just another factor in it. The fact that one of the soldiers had to go AWOL to be with his dying partner kind of illustrates the nastiness of Don't Ask Don't Tell, no?
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #15
                              Gay people should be restricted to the navy since it's pretty obvious the navy can't get any gayer than it already is now.

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