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  • #16
    Eh, I am more worried about why the don't have a uniform delegate assignment system for normal delegates (winner takes all or proportional) than the supper delegates.

    Have one or the other, but having both screws things up.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Patroklos
      Eh, I am more worried about why the don't have a uniform delegate assignment system for normal delegates (winner takes all or proportional) than the supper delegates.

      Have one or the other, but having both screws things up.
      The delegate assignment system is liberal elitism in action. They want it to be fair so they make all elected delagates assigned proportionally. But, they know the people cannot be trusted. So they have the Superdelegates to ultimately decide who gets the nomination, unless one candidate has overwhelming support.
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      • #18
        The people can't be trusted... if they could be, they wouldn't put up with such a system in the first place.

        (And super delegates get their super powers by falling into a vat of uncounted ballots.)

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        • #19
          It's just so silly that the fate of the United States could ultimately rest solely in the hands of a few self-important nincompoops... I mean, party insiders.
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          • #20
            It really doesn't. People could just ignore the party if they wanted to.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Aeson
              It really doesn't. People could just ignore the party if they wanted to.
              The thing is, people don't. So many folks are so set in their ways that they'll tow the party line no matter which loser is running.
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              • #22
                The delegate assignment system is liberal elitism in action. They want it to be fair so they make all elected delagates assigned proportionally.
                Yeah, your right, the Republicans are the ones with the mix of proportional and winner takes all, which is stupid
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                • #23
                  So many folks are so set in their ways that they'll tow the party line no matter which loser is running.
                  That's their choice, which is what you're arguing for, right? That they should have their choice?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Alexander I
                    The thing is, people don't. So many folks are so set in their ways that they'll tow the party line no matter which loser is running.
                    Tow it? Where are they taking it? And if they have the power to move it, why are you complaining?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Elok
                      Tow it? Where are they taking it? And if they have the power to move it, why are you complaining?
                      Haha! Good catch! I was typing quickly and didn't double check. I of course meant "toe."
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                      • #26
                        Give it up! Your thread sucks.
                        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Oerdin
                          Give it up! Your thread sucks.
                          And you're a jerk, but I don't have to tell you.

                          Besides, if you're not interested, why not just ignore it?
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                          "God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
                          "We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
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                          • #28
                            I refuse to watch Glenn Beck videos.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Verto
                              I refuse to watch Glenn Beck videos.
                              That's fine. You don't have to.
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                              "We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
                              The Kingdom of Jerusalem: Chronicles of the Golden Cross - a Crusader Kings After Action Report

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                              • #30
                                I watched it. It's an uninformed piece of drivel.

                                The concept of Superdelegates came about after Glen Beck's "all-wise people" chose McGovern (he won 1 state out of 50) and Dukakis (he promised in his acceptance speech to raise taxes) as the nominees.

                                It's designed to add the experience of pros to the passion of the rank-and-file. Y'know, the same way the Senate and House of Representatives are supposed to work.

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