US Supreme Court Says: Need ID to Vote

[snoopy369]

I would presume that the registered-to-vote part would cut out the illegal aliens and such

[Dinner]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I agree. Anyone that is of voting age has a driver's license or photo ID anyway.

Lots of people don't drive. That's why it is important to for the state in question to issue free picture ID other wise they'll fall foul of the 15th Amendment which courts have declared outlaws poll taxes and voter tests. For instance some people have medical conditions (narcolepsy or seizures) which make them ineligible to drive or they don't have the $50 to purchase a state ID or they've been accused of a crime which requires them to surrender their driver's license even before being convicted of any crime in a court of law (like a DUI). This would be a problem against the 15th amendment unless the state provided a free picture ID but as long as the state does that then there is no problem.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by snoopy369
I would presume that the registered-to-vote part would cut out the illegal aliens and such

Not at all. There are abundant problems with our registration system mainly because states are cheap and don't want to spend money. They don't double check citizenship, it is legal to have paid people to stand in public places asking people to registers (this has caused problems in the past because these people are paid not per hour but per person registered so they have a financial incentive to register everyone who will sign the form), and it isn't required to prove citizenship to get a driver's license but a driver's license is all you have to show in order to vote in most states.

You see the problems?

[snoopy369]

Don't you need a SSN to register to vote?

[Dinner]

I do have a problem with states who declare anyone convicted of a felony can no longer vote. That's just bullocks and it is mostly southern states which do this and it is intentionally designed to prevent blacks from voting because the lower classes are more likely to be convicted of crimes then the rich.

[snoopy369]

I was fairly sure that was in the constitution?

edit: Hmm, indeed. Interesting.

I do think it's quite unfair to claim that it is intentionally racially discriminatory. On the one hand, it is certainly even-handed in that it only applies to people who commit a crime - they could just not commit crimes and they're allowed to vote. On the other hand, it is claimed that "conservatives back it to deny blacks the vote"; you ignore that conservatives are almost always 'hard on crime' types who, racial issues aside, would still hold the same opinions.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Oerdin
I do have a problem with states who declare anyone convicted of a felony can no longer vote. That's just bullocks and it is mostly southern states which do this and it is intentionally designed to prevent blacks from voting because the lower classes are more likely to be convicted of crimes then the rich.

what exactly are you objecting to?

Felons incarcerated?
Felons on parole or probation?
Felons no longer "on paper"?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Vote supression

In the state of Virginia, a state ID costs a mighty $10.

Yeah, my gives-a-damnometer broke right about then. If you can't scrounge up $10 every 5 years then, frankly, you have bigger problems than "voter suppression" going on in your life.

And whining that "it's too haaaarrrrddd" to carry your ass to a DMV is not "voter suppression".

Voting shouldn't be easy(which is why I am opposed ot online voting). Getting up early on a Saturday and going to the DMV is not unreasonable.

[Ramo]

Incidentally, the TX DPS (analogue to the DMV) is closed on weekends (and after 5 on weekdays)...

[snoopy369]

I suggest suing TX to force them to be open weekends

[Wezil]

DPS?

Department of. . .Public....Services?

[Darius871]

safety

[Wezil]

ah, thanks.

As unimportant as it is that would have bothered me.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Ramo
Incidentally, the TX DPS (analogue to the DMV) is closed on weekends (and after 5 on weekdays)...

Alright, so...the complaint then is one afternoon off once every 5 years or so is "voter suppression"?

[Wezil]

It really isn't an onerous burden.

I don't see this so much as disenfranchising voters as disenfranchising people Democrats wish were voters.