WTF is wrong with Rev. Wright?

[Ramo]

I'd attribute it to a combination of bad taste, a disparity in advertising, political meddling (the Bush appointed head of the CPB launched a crusade against Moyers, taking away his previous show), and institutional inertia.

Also PBS really ought to clean up its lineup. No more Masterpiece Theatre.

It's really too bad that he can't be the standard bearer of the left on television, and it has to be a clown like Olbermann instead...

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ramo
I'd attribute it to a combination of bad taste, a disparity in advertising, political meddling (the Bush appointed head of the CPB launched a crusade against Moyers, taking away his previous show), and institutional inertia.

Also PBS really ought to clean up its lineup. No more Masterpiece Theatre.

It's really too bad that he can't be the standard bearer of the left on television, and it has to be a clown like Olbermann instead...

I think the problem is our culture and television itself. A show like Moyer's can never be popular given our culture. Getting information from television and youtube shouldn't even be considered a proper way to choose a candidate and make an informed decision. But with this election it is so incredibly clear how bad things have gotten. It will be interesting to see if things can actually get worse. The election seems to be a competition to see who can get the stupidest voters. It's probably been that way for awhile, but this is really incredible.

[Heraclitus]

Democracy

Fortunatley the US of A is a plutocracy.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Heraclitus
Democracy

Democratic capitalism

fixed

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Ramo
Incidentally, I'd like to ask some people here a question. Are the ideas expressed by Wright more harmful to human society than the idea that birth control is immoral (a belief held by many "mainstream" religious leaders)?

Ideas like "God should fight with us against the white people"? Yes.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Ideas like "God should fight with us against the white people"? Yes.

What about "God should fight with us against the terrorists?"

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Kidicious


What about "God should fight with us against the terrorists?"

I'ld be amazed if the mainstream religious leaders messages weren't more along the lines of hoping to find peace rather than preaching about killing ones enemy.

'Course my church is not quite mainstream.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


I'ld be amazed if the mainstream religious leaders messages weren't more along the lines of hoping to find peace rather than preaching about killing ones enemy.

'Course my church is not quite mainstream.

What is mainstream?

And I remember having to pray at my job at the christian thrift store. It went something like, "God please bless our president with your wisdom and help us to follow him, because we know that you have put him in a place that he can do your work."

[Ramo]

Ideas like "God should fight with us against the white people"? Yes.

Are we playing six degrees? That's something a person whose ideas Wright admires said in 1970. From Wiki, seven years later he says:

I think the time has come for black theologians and church people to move beyond a mere reaction to white racism in America and begin to extend our vision of a new socially constructed humanity in the whole inhabited world...For humanity is whole, and cannot be isolated into racial and national groups.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hal_Cone

Do you still have the same answer?

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Kidicious


I think the problem is our culture and television itself. A show like Moyer's can never be popular given our culture. Getting information from television and youtube shouldn't even be considered a proper way to choose a candidate and make an informed decision. But with this election it is so incredibly clear how bad things have gotten. It will be interesting to see if things can actually get worse. The election seems to be a competition to see who can get the stupidest voters. It's probably been that way for awhile, but this is really incredible.

What is the proper way to make an informed decision about a candidate?

[Theben]

Guys, Wright isn't talking to mainstream America. His intended audience is the black community. In that context, everything he said makes perfect sense.

It's also quite likely he's attempting to use the situation to further his own interests- to leap into the category of a national leader.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel


What is the proper way to make an informed decision about a candidate?

Don't be the type of person that all the candidates are trying to get to vote for them.

Seriously though just inform yourself and watching Lou Dobbs doesn't count.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Kidicious
What about "God should fight with us against the terrorists?"

That's a lot better, really.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And Obama smacks Wright down royally!

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/obama-says-hes-outraged-by-ex-pastors-comments/index.html?hp

“I’m outraged by the comments that were made and saddened over the spectacle that we saw yesterday,” Mr. Obama said, speaking to reporters here today. He added, “I find these comments appalling. It contradicts everything that I’m about and who I am.”

But after watching three days of Mr. Wright’s commentary in televised speeches and interviews, Mr. Obama said, “there are no excuses.”

“They offend me, they rightly offend all Americans and they should be denounced,” he said. “That’s what I am doing very clearly and unequivocally here today.”

“What particularly angered me is his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciation of his remarks was somehow political posturing,” Mr. Obama said. “Anybody who knows me and anybody who knows what I’m about knows that I’m about trying to bridge gaps and I see the commonality in all people.”

Obama

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


That's a lot better, really.

Ok Whitey.